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Re: The topic marker -'e'

Christopher Doty (

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 15:08, David Trimboli <> wrote:
> So "being a battle" {may' 'oH} is done "for tribbles" {yIHvaD}. The
> intended recipients of "being a battle" are tribbles. I used "benefit"
> in the sense of receiving an action, not necessarily that good would
> accrue to the tribbles. In other words, "beneficiary of the action."

Ah, okay, I thought you actually meant "benefits from."

> If by "it is battle for tribbles" you mean that only tribbles are low
> enough to bother fighting it, then you've got to rework the sentence in
> some way; it doesn't mean what you're trying to say. "A dishonorable
> battle is a battle that tribbles should fight" contains no idea of
> tribbles receiving the "action" of being a battle. The bit about the
> tribbles only modifies the word "battle."

I'm just not getting this, and maybe it's because I'm being super
dense, but compare

yIHvaD may' 'oH may' quvHa''e'


Qugh la'vaD QIn pav
[Urgent message for Commander Kruge.] (ST3 DVD case)

These seem like an analogous construction to me; I'm not sure why the
last one is okay and the the first is not....  (Sorry, not trying to
be difficult, just confused..)

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