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Re: Certification Tests

Rudy V. Busto ([email protected]) 

There are 2 separate issues here that are getting mixed up.

1) Certification and testing.

2) Learning materials.

As a newby, I am not asking for a lower bar for certification.  I  
agree that people who work hard at it and achieve competence enough to  
be certified should continue to hold that marker as a well-earned  
accomplishment.  Definitely keep that bar as high as the community  
needs it to be.

As a new lerner, quite frankly the Postal Course is the only real way  
into gaining a sure foothold in the language.  I made my own flashcard  
using the vocabulary from the Postal Course using an app so I could  
review on my Iphone; mostly because I didn't find any of the available  
apps useful for real learning (vs. finding translations for phrases).

The other bit here is that I am TRULY FASCINATED and excited by the  
recent discussion of "love" in Klingon, as it opens up all kinds of  
questions and issues for how language creates cultures and minds.

Rudy Busto


Quoting qurgh lungqIj <[email protected]>:

> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:34 PM, ghunchu'wI' 'utlh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don't accept that the problem is one of Klingon being too hard to learn.
>> It's just that effective opportunities to learn are sparse. Creating
>> a good successor to the Postal Course would probably be a better plan than
>> coming up with an easier test.
>>
>> -- ghunchu'wI'
>>
>>
> That's what I was thinking. Something that helps teach the language while
> preparing someone to take the Level 1 test.
>
> My biggest hurdle when taking those tests was thinking that I couldn't pass
> them because I had no way to judge my skill level. Having a system that
> gives a student feedback, so they can accurately judge their skills as they
> relate to the KLCP, is something I believe is needed if we, as a community,
> want more people speaking Klingon (and want more people taking/passing the
> KLCP).
>
> I know many people who are interested in learning Klingon, but for them
> simply reading a book isn't going to be good enough because they don't have
> the skills needed to self-teach it (or they aren't fluent enough in English
> to even understand TKD). They need a structured teaching experience that,
> even if it doesn't make them fluent, would arm them with the skills needed
> to continue learning on their own.
>
> qurgh
>
>
>
>



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Rüdiger V. Busto
Associate Professor
Asian / Pacific American & Chican@/Latin@ Religions
Department of Religious Studies
The University of California, Santa Barbara
Humanities and Social Sciences Building 3038
Santa Barbara, CA 93106-3130

http://www.religion.ucsb.edu/Faculty/Busto.html

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wandering the world where they sometimes fall
in love with a completely different word."
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