tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Jun 21 13:57:46 2011
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Re: Certification Tests
- From: "lojmIt tI'wI' nuv" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Certification Tests
- Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:56:18 -0400
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jIQochbe'. I haven't heard about hoards of people who have repeatedly struggled to take the test and failed year after year. You don't have to be an Olympic linguist to learn Klingon well enough to pass the tests. You just have to want to bad enough to actually learn the language as well as those who have already passed these tests.
Some passed it because of unusual talent. Some passed because of exceptional diligence. Either can be applied successfully, and I'm among those who don't feel like going way out of our way to reward the lack of both.
There are other things besides certification for those who just want to be part of the club. Like, well, joining the KLI. Be a part of the club. Make your own dictionary, or now you can even buy one from Ultralingua, for your Mac, PC or iPad. Buy the books -- TKD, KGT, or the audio discs, PK and KCD. There's a lot of cool stuff for people not interested in working hard enough to earn certification.
Certification is supposed to mean something special. Others have earned it. If you want it too, then earn it.
pItlh.
lojmIt tI'wI' nuv
On Jun 21, 2011, at 4:34 PM, ghunchu'wI' 'utlh wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Robyn Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Is there a blurb available about the certification tests or a source
>> of study material that I could link to for my qepHomnganpu'?
>>
>
> http://www.speers.nu/Holtej/klingon/klcp.htm describes the program and
> links to information about what is on each level of testing. TKD is the only
> source for Level 1, with a specific list of vocabulary.
>
>
>> Has anyone put any thought into creating some easier levels? I
>> understand requiring actual competence in the language for
>> certification, but maybe something casual learners could
>> achieve?
>
>
> I understand wanting to recognize those who are trying, but I don't see the
> point in awarding any sort of "certification" to someone just because they
> have a casual interest in learning Klingon. If a tangible symbol of such
> interest is desired, the KLI pin probably fits the need, and the {chu'wI'}
> "newcomer" level is assigned by default.
>
>
>> Looking at Earthlings and beginner experience, it seems
>> like even bronze is a pretty stiff bar for some.
>>
>
> I realize that merely urging someone to apply some effort to the task of
> learning doesn't always work, but I feel that providing a lower bar is not a
> proper solution. While it increases the count of people who can claim to
> speak Klingon, it is not compatible with a goal of growing the number of
> people who DO speak Klingon.
>
> I don't accept that the problem is one of Klingon being too hard to learn.
> It's just that effective opportunities to learn are sparse. Creating
> a good successor to the Postal Course would probably be a better plan than
> coming up with an easier test.
>
> -- ghunchu'wI'
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