tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Jul 27 10:12:39 2010
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RE: 'u': the first authentic Klingon opera on earth
Voragh:
>> Fascinating. Unfortunately my computer doesn't have a sound card
>>installed and so I can't hear Okrand's "Message to Kronos". Can you post
>>Okrand's Klingon text? Here are the English subtitles from his YouTube
>>video:
lojmIt tI'wI' nuv:
>Here's what I hear Okrand say (checking back with the subtitles). I'll
>put them in line below.
>
>>I am Marc Okrand and I bring you an important message.
> Marc Okrand jIH. De' potlh vIlab.
He's used {De' potlh} before in the BOP Poster:
tlhIngan toQDuj Duj De' potlh
Klingon Bird of Prey General Specifications
>>We Terrans will be performing an authentic battle opera.
> may' ghe'naQ numuchlu' tera'nganpu'.
>
>[Weird grammar alert:]
>[Very loose translation, very strange grammar. Maybe someone else hears
>something that makes more sense?]
This could be {may' ghe'naQna'} "an authentic battle opera", so I would expect:
may' ghe'naQna' lumuch tera'nganpu'.
Are you sure you hear {muchlu'}?
Felix:
| I believe he says:
| may' ghe'naQ lumuchrup tera'nganpu'.
| {The humans are prepared to present a battle opera.}
Felix's suggestion makes more sense. So:
may' ghe'naQna' lumuchrup tera'nganpu'
the Terrans are prepared to perform an authentic battle opera
BTW, note how he finessed "we Terrans" as simply {tera'nganpu'}. I would have done it as:
? may' ghe'naQna' wImuch tera'nganpu'
>>The name of the opera is {'u'}.
> 'u' 'oH ghe'naQ pong.
Not {pong'e'}?
>>{'u'} will be the first authentic battle opera performed on our planet.
> yuQmajDaq may' ghe'naQ wa'DIch wIQoybogh 'oH 'u'.
>
>[He apparently omitted the {-'e'} from {'u'}.]
As he did in the previous line. Also, no {-na'} "authentic" on {ghe'naQ}?
>>When, you ask?
> ghorgh lumuch?
>
>[Rather loose translation, but I understand why.]
"When will they perform it?"
>>In the days that follow the summer solstice
> poH tuj bI' reS numbogh wa' jaj.
>
> [WTF? Surely I am mistaken here. Maybe {bIleS numbogh wa' jaj}?]
{bI'reS} "beginning (of an opera, play, story, speech, etc.)" is right (see HQ 12.2:8):
poH tuj bI'reS
the beginning of the hot period (season)
Felix:
| Sounds to me like:
| poH tuj bI'reS nungbogh wa' jaj.
| {A day which precedes the warm season's (opera/play/speech/...)-beginning.}
| or {A warm-season-beginning which precedes a day.}
|
| He might have meant something like "The opera begins on a day which is
| preceded by the warm period of time."
|
| That, or the Summer solstice is called poH tuj bI'reS ("the warm period's
| beginning", "the summer's opening act"), and he meant
| wa' jaj'e' nungbogh toH puj bI'reS
| {a day which is preceded by the warm season's opening act}.
| That makes some sense; the Klingon day cycle goes from sunrise to sunrise, so
| perhaps the Summer solstice is not "Midsummer" in their minds, but rather the
| first day of Summer. ...although at the same time, while the days keep getting
| brighter following the dawn, the days keep getting darker after the Summer
| solstice, so that wouldn't make it much a poH tuj.
Is Okrand being accurate here? Does the September 9 premier occur one day before the summer solstice?
>> in the Year of Kahless 846.
> qeylIS DIS chorghvatlh loSmaH jav qaStaHvIS.
{qaStaHvIS} should precede the year number:
qaStaHvIS qeylIS DIS chorghvatlh loSmaH jav.
>>We will place a homing device transmitting this message at the site
>>of the opera.
> ghe'naQ Daqvo' QInvam wIlab.
"We will transmit this message from site of the opera."
Hmm... I would have added {-qa'} "again" or {-taH} "continuously" to the verb.
Pity. No new word for "homing device".
Thanks for transcribing this guys.
--
Voragh
Canon Master of the Klingons