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Re: The topic marker -'e'

Christopher Doty (

Can we see some canon with -lu'?  I'd guess that you can't actually
get it on <bIr>, as all of the examples in TKD that I can find are
transitive verbs.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 14:21, ghunchu'wI' <> wrote:
> On Nov 25, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Christopher Doty wrote:
>>> Now take any verb of quality in Klingon and put {-lu'} on it. Try to
>>> translate it into English using passive voice. Most of the time you
>>> will fail.
>>> {bIr} "he is cold"
>>> {bIrlu'} "...?"
>> Yeah, but you can't do this in English either, as you note with your
>> lack of translation. "He is colded (by the wind)" is nonsensical.
> "Either"?  I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say.  You
> *can* do it in Klingon, but its translation into English does not
> involve passive voice.  My point is that you can't translate {bIrlu'}
> into English as passive voice.
> -- ghunchu'wI'

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