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Re: Health (Was "The health of the Klingon language vs the health of the KLI")

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Not to get into detail about the app (which is a really bad idea if  
any of you OTHER beta testers are tempted to start doing so, given non- 
disclosure agreements), I must say that this will NOT be an app that  
will translate to and from Klingon for you. It has tools for those who  
speak Klingon and for those who are seeking to learn it. It is a suite  
of three small but useful applications that will likely be available  
together or separately. You'll want them together.

I only reveal this much in order to create two effects:

1. To generate even more interest in the apps. I'd like this effort to  
be successful, even though I receive no payment for my efforts toward  
that end. I honestly think the apps are VERY cool.

2. To dispel any false rumors about what the app can do. It can't  
translate between English and Klingon without the user doing most of  
the work. The question starting this thread seemed to be expecting the  
app to do just that. It won't, and to be honest, I'm GLAD it won't. I  
don't want something that will translate FOR me. That would kill all  
the fun.

The app is pretty and the app is useful. It still needs some tweaking  
and the beta testers are hard at work pointing out all the warts and  
glitches. There's still plenty to point at, but it gets improved  
daily, and even if it's not perfect when it is released, this platform  
makes it easy for them to publish updates, so long as they believe it  
is in their financial best interest to do so.


On Apr 24, 2009, at 11:08 AM, qurgh lungqIj wrote:

> HIja'. There is such an application in the works. I'm currently beta  
> testing
> it on my iPod Touch, although I've found some things it is lacking  
> it (no
> prefix/suffix tables, lacking some newer words). They want to  
> release it
> before the new movie comes out.
> qurgh
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Fiat Knox <>  
> wrote:
>> Do you happen to know if there is any truth to the information I had
>> gathered that Simon & Schuster have been working on developing an
>> interactive tlhIngan Hol translation app for the iPhone?
>> Peace,
>> Alex.
>> "Oh, I love it when they /ask/ me to corrupt them ..." - Me,  
>> talking to
>> Nai, Mar 01 2008
>> "You people and your quaint little categories." - Captain Jack  
>> Harkness,
>> Torchwood
>> "We're grown ups now, and it's our turn to decide what that means." -
>> Randall Munroe,
>> Conquer the Universe with me! See how at
>> We are now leaving the Kingdom of Star Trek and entering normal  
>> space.
>> --- On Fri, 24/4/09, Dr. Lawrence M. Schoen <>
>> wrote:
>>> From: Dr. Lawrence M. Schoen <>
>>> Subject: Health (Was "The health of the Klingon language vs the  
>>> health of
>> the KLI")
>>> To:
>>> Date: Friday, 24 April, 2009, 3:48 PM
>>> SaleghneS.
>>> naHQun brings up some very valid points, and my personal
>>> ill health
>>> and recent medical emergencies
>>> have further contributed to the situation (specifics of
>>> which can be
>>> found on my LJ, if you're so inclined).
>>> That said, let me address a few items:
>>> 1) qep'a'
>>> There will indeed be a qep'a'. The dates are from
>>> Wednesday evening,
>>> July 22nd through Sunday morning,
>>> July 26th. I expect to have the location and room rates
>>> locked in
>>> within the next few days (possibly the next
>>> couple of hours).
>>> 2) Worlds of Translation
>>> This project is near and dear to my heart, and I would very
>>> much like
>>> to see it come to fruition. We have a
>>> number of stories already completed, but I have run out of
>>> ideas for
>>> motivating people to finish up where
>>> that's needed. We're currently three months out
>>> from the qep'a', so
>>> perhaps some of you will jump in, and
>>> use this as an excuse/means to revitalize not only this
>>> project but
>>> also the discussion here on the list.
>>> 3) The Merchant Page
>>> Thanks to the efforts of Alan Anderson, a limited form of
>>> the
>>> Merchant Page has been up for months. It's
>>> my hope that it will expand to include more of its former
>>> glory
>>> (especially as I have a basement full of back
>>> issues of HolQeD), but as with most things at the KLI that
>>> remains a
>>> function of the time the relevant
>>> volunteers have to devote to the tasks.
>>> 4) HolQeD
>>> A decision was made at a qep'a' several years ago
>>> to cease publishing
>>> HolQeD. The ability to put out a
>>> quality quarterly was in doubt, and I did not want to
>>> reduce this
>>> proud journal to a "newsletter." At that same
>>> time, several people stepped forward with the idea of
>>> maintaining an
>>> actual newsletter instead, but that
>>> never seems to have gotten off the ground.
>>> 5) jatmey
>>> I would very much like to see a revival of jatmey. However,
>>> the
>>> amount of original poetry and/or fiction being
>>> generated in Klingon is at a low, at least as far as I am
>>> aware.
>>> However, I am feeling inspired, and I am at work on a
>>> "secret
>>> project" which I hope to reveal here on the list at
>>> least a mont (possibly two) prior to the qep'a'. It
>>> will be in the
>>> tradition of jatmey, but also somewhat grander
>>> and more ambitious by far. You might ask, "why attempt
>>> something new
>>> and bigger, when we haven't been
>>> able to do the old and familiar?" and I think
>>> that's a fair question.
>>> The answer can be found in the song, "'Iv
>>> maH,"
>>> and I think that's as sufficient an answer as needs be
>>> provided. If
>>> I've tickled your curiosity, keep reading this list
>>> and wait for the announcement.
>>> 6) Other challenges
>>> I was recently approached by a fiction publisher with a
>>> question
>>> about Twitter and Klingon. My answer is going
>>> to involve a new activity for the qep'a'. I cannot
>>> reveal more at
>>> this time, but I think it will challenge all the
>>> attendees and make for some interesting fun.
>>> 7) Maintaining the Community
>>> We all are familiar with the proverb, "mataHmeH
>>> maSachnIS," and
>>> indeed, I've used that as the theme for many
>>> an editorial in the years of HolQeD. It remains true today.
>>> When we
>>> began, there was no twitter, no facebook, no
>>> world wide web at all. In less than 20 years, the
>>> technological world
>>> has exploded around us, and for much of
>>> that time, we expanded with it. This list is one such
>>> example. The
>>> KLI's MUSH is another. I'd like to see us go
>>> further. I'd like to begin exploring the possibility of
>>> developing a
>>> Klingon speaking community in a place such
>>> as Second Life.
>>> On a related note, this would have the added possibility of
>>> allowing
>>> more people to participate (albeit virtually)
>>> in some or all of the qep'a'. I suspect we have the
>>> hardware to make
>>> this happen. I know we have the skill sets
>>> and brain power. I challenge those of you with expertise
>>> and
>>> experience in this area to begin a discussion
>>> thread here on the list, and prepare to bring this about.
>>> That's enough for now. I'm curious to see what (if
>>> any) this post
>>> generates. That alone will tell me quite a bit
>>> about the health (or not) of this organization, and the
>>> desires,
>>> motivations, and interests of its membership.
>>> taHjaj wo',
>>> Lawrence M. Schoen, Ph.D.
>>> Author / Publisher / Psychologist / Klingonist

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