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Re: Purpose Clauses (was Re:

...Paul ([email protected]) [KLI Member]



On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, Alan Anderson wrote:
> ja' ...Paul:
>> jIqeqHa' vIneHbe'.  bIpabHa'taHvIS vay' bIqeq, vaj bIpabchu' DaneHDI'
>> Qatlhqu'.
>
> <vay' Daqeq> bIja' 'e' DaHech'a'?

HIvqa' veqlargh...  cha'logh mu'tlhegh vIchoHmo' chuvchoH  <<vay'>>...

> quv DuplIj, 'ach bImeqHa'law'.  bIjatlhchu' DaneHchugh, yIqeq.
> bImujchugh, DulughmoH vay'.  bIqeltaHchugh 'ej bIgheltaHchugh 'ej
> bIDeltaHchugh bIghojlaH, 'ach QIt bIghoj 'ej not bIghojchu'.  pIm
> Qubbogh yab 'ay', jatlhbogh yab 'ay' je.  Qubbogh 'ay'
> DayonmoHta'chugh, wej bIjatlhlaHbej.  pab DayajDI' bIqeqqu'nIStaH.
>
> bIlugh DaneHchugh, bISIv 'e' yImev.  yIvang.  bIqeqtaHvIS ngeDchoH
> Qatlhlaw'bogh Qu'.

jIyaj.  'ach tlhIngan Hol vIHaD vIneH je...

>> qaQochqu'.
>
> {Qoch} probably doesn't take an object.  It's defined as "disagree",
> not "disagree with" as you're using it here.  To say "I disagree with
> you", recast it as "we disagree" (or simply "I disagree").

vIngachpu'...  tojbogh moHaq vIlo' 'e' vInID...  DoS ghajbe'mo', 
Qapbe'law' qechvetlh...  :)

>> ...qechmeyvam wIja'chuqlaHmeH...
>
> {ja'chuq} is explicitly explained as {ja'} + {-chuq}.  The {-chuq}
> suffix works only with "no object" verb prefixes.  If you always
> translate {ja'chuq} as "confer" you will never be misled by the other
> meaning of the English word "discuss".

ngugh /TKD/wIj vIlaDrupbe'...  jISuD.  :)

>> ...quchwIjmey wIwaH wIneH...
>> ...we want to test our ideas.
>
> <qechmeymaj> DaghItlhHa'qu'.  {quch} is the verb "kidnap".  {-wIj} is
> "my".  Possessive type 4 suffixes come after plural type 2 suffixes.

DopDaq qul yIchenmoH QobDI' ghu'!  QaghmeywIj tu'lu'taH 'e' vISIv...  ;)

>> ...vIyajchu'lu'meH...
>
> tlha'Ha'chugh mojaqvam.  <-chu'> nungnIS <-lu'>.

/Crap./  :)

>> tlhIngan Hol bopbogh qech Qatlh'e' vIjatlhnISDI', tera'ngan Hol vIlo',
>> tuyajchu' vIneHmo'.
>
> DuQutlh mIwvam 'aj bIDub'egh loQ 'e' bot.  tlhIngan Hol lughqu' 'oH
> ngoQlIj'e' qar'a'?  vaj tlhIngan Hol QIn tIbuS.  qech DaDelbejbe'DI'
> DamughlaH, 'ach reH DamughnIS'a'? ghobe' jay'.

<<mIwvam 'a>> DaHech'a'?  'ajvam ghaH 'Iv'e'?  :)

>> tera'ngan Hol vIlo'bogh QInwIj yIbuSHa', DaSaHbe'chugh.
>
> batlh DuqeS Doq.  law' tera'ngan Hol QInmeylIj.  pIj tlhIngan Hol
> pabHey bop.  'a tlhIngan Hol Dajatlhchu' 'e' luQaHbejbe' QInmeylIj.
> bIjatlhchu' DaneHchugh, Duy' tolIj 'e' Harlaw' Doq.  'ej jIQochbe'.

<<talIj>> DaHech, qar'a'?  :)

qayaj, 'ach loQ jIQoch.  qen, pIj tera'ngan vIlo'.  jIQochbe'.  'ach 
tera'ngan tuchbogh chut ghajbe' ghomvam, tlhIngan Hol bopchugh. 
Qochbe'ghach wIchavta' 'e' vIneH, 'ach maQochbe'law'taH Hoch...

DIpDaq /-meH/ lulo'lu'DI', moHaq lulo'nISbe'lu' 'e' toblaw' /Okrand/ 
mu'tlhegh -- maQochbe'.  'ach tobbejmeH yap'a' meqvetlh?  lutoblaw'mo' pIm 
pab 'e' Har pabpo', Steven Boozer je.  maQoch.

pab choHlu' DaneHbe', 'ach muj mu'tlhegh 'e' DaHarbe' je.  maQochbe'. 
mu'tlheghvetlh QIjbogh chutHom vIQutlh -- 'ach chutHom wItoblaw'bogh 
wI'lo'laH 'e' vIHarbe'.

chutHom wIlo'laHbe'meH maQochbe'chugh, rarbogh mu' wIpongmeH <<rarbogh 
mu'>> wIlo'nIS 'e' vIHar. chaq ta Duy' vIrar, tuyajchu' 'e' vIHarbe'mo'... 
maQochbe'choH 'e' vInID neH...

...Paul

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