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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qo''e' tu'bogh pagh - 'ay' wa'maH
- From: Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qo''e' tu'bogh pagh - 'ay' wa'maH
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ghItlhpu' De'vID, jatlh:
> KIRK: yIrIH.
maj.
taH:
> (ghebHom rIl beq)
I thought the instrument used was more like a Dov'aghHom "whistle"?
> KIRK: ghorqon Qang.
> GORKON: qIrq HoD.
> KIRK: *Spock* HoD DaSovlaw'bogh qalIHneS.
> GORKON: HoD, tagha' ghom cha' qabDu'... qatlho'qu'.
I like the cha' qabDu' phrasing, though since they've never met face
to face before I think qIH or perhaps even tay' might be better than
ghom.
> SPOCK: Qang.
> GORKON: loDpu',
maj.
> puqbe'wI' ghaH 'aSetbur[1]'e'.
Like loghaD I thought that 'atlhetbur was canon, but I can't find it
anywhere. I like 'atlhetbur better, but that's just an opinion.
> QI' qeSwI'wI', qerla' 'ech. 'ej cheng Sa' ghaH,
It'd sound more natural if you phrased this as cheng Sa' ghaH
nuvvam'e'.
> ra'ghomquv DevwI''a'wI'[2] ghaH.
I wonder if "Chief of Staff" refers to the same position as that of
the Joint Chiefs of Staff for the U.S. military. If that's the case,
I'd put this as ra'ghomquv pIn'a'.
> CHANG: reH qaghom vIneH, HoD.
Again, ghom isn't the right verb here. qIH "meet for the first time"
is what you're looking for.
> KIRK: vIlaj... 'ach vIyajchu'be'.
> KERLA: DuHo'bej, qIrq...
> CHANG: ...latlh SuvwI'na' Ho'mo' SuvwI'.
maj.
> KIRK: lugh...
"Right" here is idiomatic; I'm not sure that lugh captures it.
> lurghvam ghoS. loQ maleng 'e' botIvbej.
botIvbej shows too much certainty for what Kirk says in English. I
would put it as chaq 'e' botIv.
> CREWMAN wa': rurchuqchu' Hoch chaH.
> CREWMAN cha': He'So' 'e' yIqel.
Perhaps pIwvetlh DalarghlaH'a'?
> jatlhlaH nIvqu'wI'pu' neH 'ej...
maj. Not sure if you've thought of it, but given that this line's
used, I wonder if in this scene you could perhaps make use of -mey
or bIH to show the crewmen are casting aspersions on the Klingons'
ability to use language?
> VALERIS: Qu' boghaj'a', loDpu'?
> CREWMAN wa'/cha': HIja', qaH.
> VALERIS: vaj pIpyuS yIghor.
maj. We also have the idiom qul DIr yISop "eat the fire skin" that
means "hurry up, move quickly!".
QeS 'utlh
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