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RE: Similies - <sentence expressing quality>; <noun phrase> rur
- From: Steven Boozer <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: Similies - <sentence expressing quality>; <noun phrase> rur
- Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:19:50 -0500
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- Thread-topic: Similies - <sentence expressing quality>; <noun phrase> rur
Sorry. That post got away from me before I finished writing it!
>SuStel:
>>That's not right either. If we're to stick strictly to the form Okrand
>>uses for similes, it's
>>
>> <sentence with verb of quality>; <noun phrase> rur
>>not
>> <any sentence>; <noun phrase> rur
>>
>>In other words, the purpose of the simile is to compare the *quality* of
>>something with a noun phrase that inherently has that quality.
>>
>> The first [sentence] attributes a quality to someone or something;
>> the second makes use of the verb {rur} ("resemble") to link the
>> quality to something that presumably epitomizes the quality.
>> (KGT, p. 27)
>>
>>{pe'} is not a verb that expresses a quality; it expresses an action. So
>>unless you want to describe the *quality* of the tubers, a simile is not
>>the right tool.
I wrote:
>For review, here's a list of known Klingon similes:
>
>ram; ghIlab ghew rur
>trivial as a glob fly KGT
>
>let mInDu'Daj; Separmey rur
>Her eyes are hard; they resemble separ
>[Her eyes are as hard as separ-stones.] KGT
>
>HoSghaj; mupwI' rur
>powerful as a hammer KGT
>
>bIr; bortaS rur
>cold as revenge. KGT
>
>puj; bIQ rur
>weak as water. KGT
>
>HoS; 'Iw rur
>strong as blood. KGT
>
>'oj; bomwI' rur
>thirsty as a singer. KGT
>
>puj verengan; bIQ rur the
>Ferengi is as weak as water (HQ 13.1:9)
>
>[... etc.]
Here are examples of how the quality {rur} "resemble" is used normally (i.e. not in a cliché simile):
SuvwI' juHmey rur tachmey
Bars resemble warriors' homes. CK
Dejpu'bogh Hov rur qablIj
Your face looks like a collapsed star! PK
Hov ghajbe'bogh ram rur pegh ghajbe'bogh jaj
A day without secrets is like a night without stars. PK
matay'DI' vIHtaHbogh bIQ rur mu'qaDmey
Between us, curses run like water. PK
toQDujna' rurchu'!
It [BoP ornament] looks so REAL! (Hallmark)
Doq 'ej beqpuj rur
(it) is {Doq} and resembles beqpuj (an orange mineral) KGT
Doq 'ej Qaj wuS rur
be orange/red and resemble kradge lips
["The lips of the kradge are presumably a particular shade of brown."] (BBS 2/98)
--
Voragh
Canon Master of the Klingons