tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed May 14 14:41:02 2008
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Re: BOP Poster still available?
> > Voragh:
> >>>>>> * crane
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The machine, not the bird I assume? {tep jolpat} "cargo
> >>>>> transporter" (i.e. a type of crane according to the drawing)
> >
> >
> > ghunchu'wI':
> >>>> toQDuj cha'bogh navvam Daleghta''a'? tep jolpat perbe'. pong neH.
> >
> > Voragh:
> >>> navvam' vIghaj.
> >
> > ghunchu'wI':
> >> Then you should look at it again and correct your notes. The cargo
> >> tranporter is not depicted as a crane. As I said in Klingon, "It
> >> does not label the cargo transporter. It just names it."
>
>Voragh:
> > And the difference being...?
Doq:
>It appears that voragh believes that the poster shows a crane-line
>device and gives us the term {tep jolpat} and assumes that the term
>refers to the crane-like device. ghunchu'wI' feels uncomfortable
>making that assumption, since the term could well refer to a
>transporter pad near the crane-like device. He points out that the
>crane-like device doesn't have any arrows pointing to it labeling it
>as {tep jolpat}.
>
>Am I depicting correctly what each of you is trying to tell the other?
Now I see what the confusion is... Apparently my note about the crane,
which I pasted from the entry in my Annotated Klingon Dictionary, got
inserted into the wrong sentence in my post. It actually refers to the
{tepqenqwI'}:
{tep jolpat} cargo transporter (n) KBoP
- tep jolpat: wa' Cargo Transporter ? 1. KBoP
{tepqengwI'} cargo lift (n) KBoP (a type of crane on the drawing?)
{tepqengwI'} cargo carrier (n) TKD ["Space ship primarily used to
transfer goods from one location to another." (KLS)] (cf. {tongDuj}
freighter & {SuyDuj} merchant ship)
I'll have to dig the poster out of my closet when I get home tonight, but I
believe there's both a cargo transporter {tep jolpat} as well as a cargo
lift {tepqengwI'} on the cargo deck {tep choQ}. I called it a "crane" in
my notes because that's what it is in essence: a "mechanical lifting
device, often used for lifting heavy loads for industrial or construction
purposes" (cf. Wiktionary). IIRC it was a waist-high (?) projector-type
device - possibly a small, portable tractor beam used for moving cargo
{tep} around. You could also think of it as a 24th-century version of a
forklift. Again IIRC there was a similar waist-high tractor beam projector
seen on the Enterprise-D's shuttlecraft deck in a couple of TNG episodes.
BTW {tepqengwI'} is also glossed "cargo carrier" in TKD which may be a type
of ship - perhaps used to ferry cargo down from an orbiting {tongDuj} or
{SuyDuj}?
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons