tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Mar 01 18:17:05 2004
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Re: law'/puS DIpvaD tam <'e'> je
- From: "QeS lagh" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: law'/puS DIpvaD tam <'e'> je
- Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 12:16:24 +1000
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vIghItlhpu' jIH:
>??yuch wIb qaq law' HaQchor rurbogh yuch qaq puS 'e' vIHar
>"I think that pure chocolate is better than sweet chocolate"
jang Quvar:
>'e' refers to the previous sentence as a whole.
>So, your first sentence:
> {yuch wIb qaq law' HaQchor rurbogh yuch qaq puS}
>and the second part:
> {'e' vIHar}
>{yuch wIb qaq law' HaQchor rurbogh yuch qaq puS 'e' vIHar}
>It works.
qatlho'qu'. jIna'be'pu'. <<qIb lengwI' tlhIngan Hol>>Daq DeltaHvIS Okrand
Qel, <<pabchu'be'>> jatlh.
I was not sure whether the comparative construction was technically a
sentence, since Dr Okrand explicitly mentions it as "bending the rules" in
his description in KGT.
ghItlhtaH Quvar:
>But you should think about {Har}, it means "believe", in the sense that
>"you might believe it, but > I don't".
'e' vISov. <<X 'e' vIQub>>'e' ghoHpu' ghomvam. <<nIb'a' <<X 'e' vIQub>>
DIvI' Hol "I think that X" je?>>'e' maja'chuq. ngugh maQoch, vaj lIw 'oHmeH
<<'e' vIHar>> vIchup. DIvI' Hol lo'lu'chugh, nIbchu' "I think that X" "I
believe that X" je. maQochlI' 'e' vIHar.
There was an argument on the list some time ago about whether <X 'e' vIQub>
means the same as English "I think that X". No consensus was reached at that
time, so I put forward the suggestion of substituting <'e' vIHar> instead.
In English, "I think that X" is the same as "I believe that X" (hence the
substitution), whereas I didn't see any agreement reached as to whether this
was fine in Klingon.
qechmey vImugh 'e' vInID je. mu'mey vImugh not 'e' vInID. Qobqu' 'ej reH
muQaghmoH. {{:)
In addition, I never try to translate English directly into Klingon. It's
dangerous and has caused many mistakes for me in the past. :D
Savan, 'ej qatlho'qa', Quvar.
QeS lagh
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