tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sun Aug 22 22:32:36 2004
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Re: {qon} vs {gher}
At 10:07 AM 8/21/2004, ngabwI' wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dar'Qang" <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 1:56 AM
>Subject: Re: Direct quote of written statement
>
> >
> > Scribbling down a telephone message is a little like writing a news wire
> > report, but because it is a /new/ description, I think that one would be
> > justified in using {qon}.
>
>OK, you lost me. How does taking a phone message incorporate something new?
>Though I could certainly use English "record" for this, in light of what
Poor sentence on my part. The 'it' refers to a news wire report.
The struggle for me is that by the description of {gher}, a news wire
report would seem to be a {gher}. But that seems to erode the nifty idea
that Qov / MO were describing about the Klingon view of composition being
encountering the song/poem "out there" and then recording it. (because the
latter seems somewhat like {gher} now.)
>Not too long ago, I was given two very valuable pieces of advice in this
>language:
>Voragh told me that much of the language is based on "how it feels". If you
>go around trying to analyze it to death, you're going to drive yourself
>nuts.
>And while I was wrestling with the "proper" object of {ja'}(the thing told
>or the person told), SuStel advised me that until we learn otherwise, use
>{ja'} however you are comfortable using it.
>
>What arose from these two tidbits was (for me) a new way of looking at
>Klingon.
>
>Go with your gut. {DujlIj yIvoq!} Many of our questions haven't been
>answered yet. If we haven't been told the "one true way", no one can say
>your usage is wrong.
maj. Excellent advice! In reality {gher} and {qon} are used how they are
used by Klingons, including accepted convention and custom, which often
isn't reducible by analysis.
majQa' BG!
Dar'Qang
qo''a'lIj DachenmoHtaH