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Re: lugh'a' mughghachvam?



Thank you, Voragh.  The thing I have difficulty on is the fact that Dal (be boring) was not changed to (bore) with DalmoH.  From the dictionary, and even those examples you gave me, the quality verbs sure look like they're being changed to an action verb.  (be pleased) to (please).  (be shiny) to (shine).  etc.  I understand "okay" now.  Thank you for your help.  By the way, /boch/ means "be shiny" and "shine", right?  So in your example below, I really wouldn't need -moH to say, "If you shine my nose."  qar'a'?

Steven Boozer <[email protected]> wrote:Klingon Warrior:
>>SuStel, am I right in thinking that this translation is correct?
>>"You disgraced me!" - /chowebmoH/
>>"If it pleases you." - /DubelmoHchugh/

SuStel:
>Yes, those are correct. You're not understanding the meaning of /-moH/, 
>though (I'm referring to another post you just sent). Its purpose isn't 
>to make a quality verb into an action verb. Its purpose is to say that 
>the subject causes the object to do verb. In the case of /DalmoH/, the 
>subject is causing the object to "be borning." /yaS DalmoH HoD/ = "The 
>captain causes the officer to be boring."
>
>It doesn't matter whether the verb is a quality verb or an action verb.
>/HIQoymoH/ "cause me to hear (something)" comes right out of TKD.
>
>/DalmoH/ does NOT mean "bore." It definitely means "cause to be boring."

A few examples of verbs + {moH} from canon might help the Warrior:

{belmoH} to please

qabelmoH'a'?
Do I please you? PK

{bochmoH} shine (something)

ghIchwIj DabochmoHchugh ghIchlIj qanob
If you shine my nose, I will give you your nose. PK

{chenHa'moH} destroy s.th.

chenHa'moHlaH
It can destroy them
("It can cause them to undo their form"). TKD

{chenmoH} build, form, make, create

tIjwI'ghom vIchenmoH
I form a boarding party.
["I cause a boarding party to be formed."] TKD

wIchenmoHlaH
We can create it. TKD

{ghojmoH} teach, instruct

batlh qaghojmoHpu'
It has been an honor to instruct you. CK

{lamHa'choHmoH} get something cleaned

nuqDaq waqwIj vIlamHa'choHmoH
Where can I get my shoes cleaned? TKD



-- 
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons 



Klingon Warrior
taHjaj wo'!




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