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Re: QoghIj 'Iw nIjmoHHey SIQpu' quchoywI'

----- Original Message -----
From: "DloraH" <>

> > Subject: QoghIj 'Iw nIjmoHHey SIQpu' quchoywI'
> nIj is a verb.  It looks like you're tying to use it as a verb; and you're
> using both verb and noun suffixes on it.
> quch is "kidnap".  You want qoch "partner".

I wonder if that would be classed as a profound error as in what it did to

> > cha'maH wa' Hu'  QoghIj 'Iw nIjmoHHey SIQpu' quchoywI'
> > Three weeks ago My wife suffered a possible stroke.
> cha'maH wa' Hu'  does work; we also have the word  ret "time period
> ago".
> wej Hogh ret  ...
> Both work.
> Even tho half of my ancestors on both sides have died from stroke, I
> don't know the actual medical occurence.  I sure someone else could
> comment on describing a stroke before I could look it up on the net.

I'm sorry to hear that.. I think we've been really lucky as Suzy seems to be
getting back to normal, if there is such a thing.

> > 'e' vIQuchHa'qu'moH
> > This caused me to be unhappy.
> vI- is [I-it].  "I caused it, the previous sentence, to be very unhappy."
> Remember Object-Verb-Subject.  But before you flip this around, 'e' can
> only be the object.  You can try words like wanI' or ghu'.
> muQuchHa'qu'moH wanI'.
> Or you could just simply say, jI'IQ.

Ah I see.. I had 'e' in the object position visually but not in my
English... I think I started wanting to use [-'egh] but that can't have an
object so despensed with it without thinking the rest didn't work either...

> Or you could just simply say, jI'IQ.


In a 1:1 conversation could you imagine that a Klingon might have said that
by just saying:
'e' vIparHa'
or is that subject best steared clear of?

> > wejmaH Soch ben ghaH neH je
> > She's only 37
> You have no verb in this sentence.

I tried to use ghaH as the verb "she is" have I got that wrong? or is it
that I can't use [wejmaH Soch ben] as the object of pronouns in this way?

NUM:         wejmaH Soch: thirty Soch
N: ben:       years old
V: ghaH:    she is
ADV: neH: only,

> bogh "born"
> wejmaH Soch ben bogh.

I'm sure I've seen something on how to talk about age was it in HolQeD or
one of the books?

> > bong jIchaw''eghpu'. ghot QeH vIDa jIH
> > I unintentionally allowed my self to get aggravated
> jIQeHchoH.  "I became angry."
> If you want to keep the longer description,
> jIQeHchoH  bong 'e' vIchaw'.  "I accidentally permitted that I became
> angry."
> jISeH'eghbe'.  jIQeHchoH.  "I did not control myself.  I became angry."
> jIQeHchoH  'e' vIbotlaHbe'.  "I was not able to prevent that I became
> angry."

Thanks... As I had made use of it, are there any examples on how to use
[Da -behave as] ?

> > Do' pIvchoH ghaH
> > She has begun to get a little better
> good.


> > vay' vImawchugh quvwIj vIchermeH tIqwIj vI'ang
> > If I have offended anyone
> > I show you my heart  In order to re-establish my honour .
> The klingon doesn't imply the [re-] on re-establish.  It is just "
> order to establish my honor"; which I think still works.  You could add
> suffix -qa', vIcherqa'meH.

Thanks.. My notes did have the -qa' ..
Of course that has to mean I had established honour to start with...
No comments required on the latter ;-)

> > PS despite the subject matter I would appreciate constructive comment
> > on HolwI'
> -wI' is used in reference to beings capable of using language.  A
> language itself doesn't speak, so we would use -wIj.

Thanks another silly mistake..

Someone sent me an email the other day with [qa'wI']
Is this an acceptable use of -wI' or in this instance down to the
individuals perspective?

> You are doing good.


> DloraH, BG


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