RE: KLBC: RE: Enough.

["rItlhmoQSuvwI'" <vlodnak@paintballgames4u.com>]

Damn... and here I thought I was doing good....



> -----Original Message-----
> From: DloraH [mailto:DloraH@kli.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 23:37
> To: tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org
> Subject: RE: KLBC: RE: Enough.
> 
> 
> > Sumogh 'e' vIyaj.
> > 'ach SughobnISta'.
> 
> "But you had needed to wage war." ?
> 

"But you needed to finish fighting.".... /'ach SuSuvchuq borInnIS./?

> 
> > tlhIngan Hol ghojwI'pu' Hoch maH
> 
> Without a verb, /maH/ must act as the verb, and with this 
> word order I get: "We are all of klingon students."
> 
> For "We all are klingon students" I would switch /Hoch/ and 
> /maH/. ghojwI' maH Hoch'e'. But this is only if we can say 
> "we all are". This isn't "all of us" because maH is acting as 
> the verb; so we don't have it as part of a noun-noun.
> 

Ok... so it becomes:  /tlhIngan Hol ghojwI' maH Hoch'e'/?  This
emphasizes and stresses "ALL" (Hoch) right?

> 
> > 'e' wIqaw potlh.
> 
> wI- implies the "we" are the subject; but you put /potlh/ in 
> the subject's place. "We something important remember that." 
> If /potlh/ is being used as a verb, then you have two verbs.
> 
> Hmm, are you saying "It is important to remember that we are 
> all students."?

Yes.

> 
> ghojwI' maH Hoch'e'  'e' wIqawnISqu'.  ((potlh ghu'vam) or 
> (potlh Qu'vam))
> 
>
> 
> > reH maQochbe'be'.
> 
> Two [be']'s together.  I can accept multiple be' when there 
> are suffixes between them; each be' modifying it's preceeding 
> suffix. I understand what's being said, and I'm sure a 
> klingon would understand it; but is it something a native 
> would say?  We don't know.  We haven't seen any evidence yet.
> 

I questioned that as I did it... but I wanted to say that don't always
"Agree" as opposed to saying that we always "Disagree".

> 
> > rut maQochnIS.
> > 'ach jItay'.
> 
> "But I am together"?
> Oh wait, do you mean [tay], without the [']?
> "But I am civilized".  That makes more sense.
> 

No... I used the wrong prefix... it should have been /'ach matay'/.
"but we are together".

> 
> > 'ej potlh.  peqaw!
> > DaH Dopmey vIyaj.  'ej Savuv.
> > batlh tlhIngan Hol ghojwI'pu''a' tlhIH.
> 
> Noun suffix -'a' is a type 1 suffix.  -pu' is type 2.
> 

so to fix this it would be /batlh tlhIngan Hol ghojwI''a'pu' tlhIH./?
"You are honored Klingon language students."  (I couldn't come up with a
way to easily say "you are BOTH..."


> 
> DloraH, BG .... must sleep...
> 
> 

QaHlIj vItlho'.

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