tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Jun 20 09:43:54 2002
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RE: KLBC: RE: Enough.
> "But you needed to finish fighting.".... /'ach SuSuvchuq borInnIS./?
rIn is intransitive, it doesn't take an object.
But you can use mev. We have the canon, /bIjatlh 'e' yImev/ "stop talking".
SuSuvchuq 'e' bomevnIS.
> > > tlhIngan Hol ghojwI'pu' Hoch maH
> >
> > Without a verb, /maH/ must act as the verb, and with this
> > word order I get: "We are all of klingon students."
> >
> > For "We all are klingon students" I would switch /Hoch/ and
> > /maH/. ghojwI' maH Hoch'e'. But this is only if we can say
> > "we all are". This isn't "all of us" because maH is acting as
> > the verb; so we don't have it as part of a noun-noun.
>
> Ok... so it becomes: /tlhIngan Hol ghojwI' maH Hoch'e'/? This
> emphasizes and stresses "ALL" (Hoch) right?
(If "we all" is allowed...) The -'e' here isn't emphasising or stressing; -'e'
goes on the subject of a pronoun-as-to-be. TKD section 6.3
(This section also states that if the subject is a noun, the pronoun/verb is
third-person. Which is why /maH Hoch/ shouldn't work.)
> > > reH maQochbe'be'.
> >
> > Two [be']'s together. I can accept multiple be' when there
> > are suffixes between them; each be' modifying it's preceeding
> > suffix. I understand what's being said, and I'm sure a
> > klingon would understand it; but is it something a native
> > would say? We don't know. We haven't seen any evidence yet.
>
> I questioned that as I did it... but I wanted to say that don't always
> "Agree" as opposed to saying that we always "Disagree".
I understand, which is why I didn't say it's wrong. We just don't know.
> > > rut maQochnIS.
> > > 'ach jItay'.
> >
> > "But I am together"?
> > Oh wait, do you mean [tay], without the [']?
> > "But I am civilized". That makes more sense.
>
> No... I used the wrong prefix... it should have been /'ach matay'/.
> "but we are together".
That works.
> > > 'ej potlh. peqaw!
> > > DaH Dopmey vIyaj. 'ej Savuv.
> > > batlh tlhIngan Hol ghojwI'pu''a' tlhIH.
> >
> > Noun suffix -'a' is a type 1 suffix. -pu' is type 2.
>
> so to fix this it would be /batlh tlhIngan Hol ghojwI''a'pu' tlhIH./?
> "You are honored Klingon language students."
"With honor, you are major students of the klingon language."
"You are honored students" ghojwI'pu' quv tlhIH.
> (I couldn't come up with a way to easily say "you are BOTH..."
That's OK, we can't either.
DloraH, BG