tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Aug 23 09:28:54 2002
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RE: prefix trick (RE: Aw: Re: adverbials)
> >> Does it only apply to 1st & 2nd person constructions because MO has said
>>> that or because that's as far as canon examples and understanding have
>>> shown.
>>
>>I believe MO said so, and I think it was on that ST news group, but I admit
>>I don't know for sure where he said, if he did say it.
>>
>>canon anybody?
>>
>>(It's in my archives somewhere)
>>
>>
>>DloraH, BG
>
>He twice said it applies when the indirect object is first or second
>person, but he didn't actually say that it *only* applies in such cases.
>It's possible that the 1st/2nd usage is mentioned because the examples
>given have a 3rd person object, and the "real" usage is that the prefix
>merely disagrees with the person of the object.
>
>You be the judge:
>
>Excerpted from: "Marc Okrand" <[email protected]>
>Newsgroups: msn.onstage.startrek.expert.okrand
>Date: 29 Jun 1997
>Subject: Re: Some quick questions...
>
>The indirect object of jatlh, when expressed, is the hearer/listener.
>Thus:
>
> qama'pu'vaD tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh "you speak Klingon to the prisoners"
> (qama'pu'vaD "for the prisoners," tlhIngan Hol "Klingon language,"
> Dajatlh "you speak it")
>
> qama'pu'vaD SoQ Dajatlh "you make a speech to the prisoners"
> (qama'pu'vaD "for the prisoners," SoQ "speech, lecture, address,"
> Dajatlh "you speak it")
but /Da-/ can also mean "you (to) them". it's always ambigious when
you try to apply the prefix trick this way (with the third person),
isn't it?
tulwI',
sts.