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Re: Aw: Re: adverbials

>From: "Stephan Schneider" <>
>>  if we don't distinguish between a noun and a case-wrapped noun, than
>>  one could think (for example, me) that any noun can be but in a
>>  nounphrase like "a <noun>". for example, "tree" is a noun, and i'm
>>  used to be able to say "a tree". if "because of the night" is a noun,
>>  then i would think that it would be able to say "a because of the
>>  night".
>This is not an issue in Klingon.  The language doesn't use articles.
>Stardate 2619.6

SuStel, ok, i'm going to adapt what i said in order to make it fit to 
a real klingon issue.

if "because of the night" was a normal noun like "night" then i could 
say "that because of the night" just like "that night"; but i can't. 
i can only say "because of that night", because "because" wrappes the 
noun-phrase "night" and "that night", but "because of the night" and 
"because of that night" are no noun phrases. they are wrapped 
noun-phrases. it would be usefull to distinguish between those 
things, don't you think?

i know that we can't say *"rammo'vetlh" because "mo'" is type 5 and 
"vetlh" is type 4, but _the reason for that_ is that "vetlh" wrapps a 
noun-phrase and returns a noun-phrase. and "mo'" wrapps a noun-phrase 
and returns an "adverbial", i'd say. anyway, i returns something 
different than a noun-phrase. so */mo'vetlh/ is impossible. i just 
would like to describe the language without using terms like "type 
four", "type five", but with terms like "noun-phrase-wrapper", which 
are more plastic, don't you think?


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