tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue May 04 19:37:29 1999
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RE: KLBC: mu'tlheghwIj DalaD'a'
- From: "Andeen, Eric" <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: KLBC: mu'tlheghwIj DalaD'a'
- Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:40:37 -0700
jatlh runa:
> wej vIqonbogh lut DalughchoHbe'.
Remember your sentence order: <lut vIqonbogh>. Also, I think you want
<lughmoH> rather than <lughchoH>, and since you have <wej>, you don't need
the <-be'>.
> mu'tlheghwIj DalaD'a'.
> veng wa'Dich vIleng 'e' vIgitlh.
Spelling: <I>.
> (You haven't yet corrected the story I wrote.
> Did you read my sentences?
> I type out "I travelled to First City".)
> lut vIqontaH: (the story continues...)
> 1. After I got out the door I noticed that Mara was nowhere in sight.
> lojmItvo' jIqetDI' ngablaw' mara.
maj. It would probably be better with a <-pu'> on the <ngab>: Mara
disappeared before you got out the door.
> 2. "Are you here?" I called out, but she didn't answer.
> nadev SoH'a' jIjach 'ach mujangbe'.
> [what is the d.o. with verbs of saying?]
Our new understanding (thanks to the December HolQeD) is that the verbs of
speech are <jatlh>, <ja'>, and possibly a (very) few others. <jach> is
specifically not included. The quotation can go before or after the verb of
speech. As a result, you would say something like this:
jIjach. jIjatlh <naDev SoH'a'>. 'ach mujangbe'.
> 3. I was still carrying all my books I had bought.
> paq vIje'bogh hoch vIqengtaH.
> [should the -bogh phrase go before paq?]
Try to think of a <-bogh> clause (or <-meH> or most other type 9 suffixed
verbs for that matter) as a whole sentence all by itself. The sentence in
this case is "I bought all the books". The one tricky thing here is the use
of <Hoch>. Okrand has explained to us (I don't remember where) that the
meaning of <Hoch> changes a bit depending on whether the noun that follows
has a plural suffix or not. If it does, it means "all of". Without a plural
suffix, it's "each one of". The one you want is <Hoch paqmey>, so the
<-bogh> clause becomes <Hoch paqmey vIje'bogh>.
> That's enough for now.
maj.
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