tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Jul 02 06:54:44 1999
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Re: KLBC challenge
On Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:31:39 -0400 Marc Ruehlaender
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > That is better than my "Everywhere, is honor" and your sentence
> > which can be translated either as "Everywhere, honor is," or
> > "Honor is everywhere," [LITERALLY, since that interpretation
> > uses {Dat} as the direct object instead of the locative.]
> >
> according to TKD, {Dat} never takes the suffix -Daq, so it
> should at least _also_ be interpratable in the locative sens, qar'a'?
That's why I gave two interpretations. One sees it as locative:
"Everywhere, honor is." The other takes it as a noun: "Honor is
everywhere."
> also, {Dat batlh 'oH} taken as it is, I'd have translated as
> Everywhere, it (the goal?) is honour.
Exactly. That's why I've since said that it would be much better
as {Dat batlh tu'lu'.} both meanings apply. "Everywhere one
finds honor," and "Everywhere, one finds honorably."
> > > *nowhere* Damugh 'e' vItul :)
> >
> > paghDaq. bIQuch'a'?
> >
> jIQuchchu'be'. Do you think, {paghDaq} could answer my
> original question? i.e. does
>
> paghDaq jIghoS
>
> mean the same as
>
> I'm going nowhere (in a literal sense)
I think your Klingon sentence is poorly stated for the
translation of the English sentence you've given. It should be:
pagh vIghoS.
{paghDaq jIghoS} would imply that you are no nowhere and you are
going somewhere else. "I am nowhere and I am going." I'm
stretching the word "go" here because the verb means to approach
something or go from something or generally follow a path
associated with something, but your prefix indicates no direct
object. The locative tells you where the action is happening,
not the destination of the action.
> also, do you think Voragh's suggestion
>
> vogh jIghoSbe'
>
> works for that?
It stumbles in that odd land of ambiguity. Does it mean, "I
don't go anywhere," or does it mean, "I don't go everywhere;
there are places I don't go; I don't go somewhere,"? It is an
odd statement.
> Marc Ruehlaender
> aka HomDoq
> [email protected]
>
charghwI' 'utlh