tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Dec 29 22:09:23 1999
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Re: KLBC two semi-old posts to be critiqued please
- From: Alan Anderson <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: KLBC two semi-old posts to be critiqued please
- Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 01:13:22 -0500
- In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
ja'pu' Mark A Miles <[email protected]> wrote:
>QIt tlhIngan Hol vIHaD je
ja' charghwI':
>"I also slowly study Klingon language." I'll offer as a note
>that when Okrand has talked about the use of {je} as an adverb
>like this, the details he talked about (much to my frustration)
>consistently took the form that someone else studies Klingon
>language and I do, too. He never has used it or explained it in
>the form "I do other things and I study Klingon, too."
Actually, he did explain it that way. TKD section 5.3, page 55:
The noun conjunction {je} has an additional function: when it
follows a verb it means "also, too".
{qaleghpu' je} "I also saw you, I saw you too"
As in English, the meaning of such sentences is ambiguous:
"I and others saw you" or "I saw you and others." The exact
meaning is determined by context.
>Meanwhile, I don't know any Klingonist (except Okrand) who has
>not used it the way you did.
Okrand explicitly stated the possibility that it could be used this way.
He just didn't disambiguate the example one way or the other.
-- ghunchu'wI' 'utlh