tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Jul 17 13:19:43 1996
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Re: chollI' qep''a'
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>Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:11:54 -0700
>From: [email protected] (Soqra'tIS)
>On 7/17/96 at 7:35 AM, Mark E. Shoulson wrote the following:
>> >Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:55:00 -0700
>> >From: [email protected] (Soqra'tIS)
>>
>> >On 7/16/96 at 7:02 AM, Dr. Lawrence M. Schoen wrote the following:
>> > <...vIteqlu'pu'...>
>> "I have been removed"? Ouch. Do'Ha'.
>"I have removed it" vInIDta'. majHa''a'. "<...SnIp...>" vInejpu'. yIqeSnIS.
That would be "vIteq." -lu' indicates an unspecified subject, and the
prefixes reverse their meanings. "vIteq" is "I removed it"; "vIteqlu'" is
"something removed me."
"majHa''a'"?? Ugh. maj is not a verb (that we know of); we don't know if
it can be suffixed with -Ha' (though there are some examples of adverbs
getting -Ha', but generally ones like "Do'" which is also a verb), and
certainly we don't know about putting -'a' on an adverb.
yIqeSnIS is a command that I must "need to advise!" It's probably only in
really contrived circumstances that you'll ever need an imperative prefix
and "-nIS" on the same word. Either "yIqeS" or "HIqeS" (Advise! Advise
me!) or "bIqeSnIS"/"choqeSnIS" (you must advise/you must advise me).
>nuqjatlh'a'. "teS" = "ear(s)"? 'e' vItu'Ha'. yIqeSnIS.
{nuqjatlh} is an expression in its own right. It doesn't take -'a'.
Remember that -'a' is NOT just thrown on whenever there's a question. It
signifies only yes/no questions, attached to verbs.
"teS" is a word for "ear" given in HolQeD. It refers to the inner ear, the
organs responsible for hearing (though they're harder to remove, I judged
those would be the things that would have to goto save you from hearing the
song). External ears are "qogh."
Why vItu'Ha'? You mis-found it? Sort of like you found it but screwed
up doing it? vItu'be' is neater.
>> > 'e' largh QIjlaw'
>>
>> "He smells that (the prospect scares him). He apparently explains it."
>> nuqjatlh? loQ jImIS.
>"THAT explains the smell" vInIDta'. yIqeSnIS.
Well, consider what you tried. For one thing, in the English, "that" is
the subject, isn't it? And you're trying to use 'e' for it in the
Klingon. But 'e' is only an OBJECT. There is no simple
sentence-as-subject construction in Klingon (that we know).
Also, what's "largh"? It's a verb, not a noun. Moreover, it means "smell"
in the sense of "detect odor," not in the sense of "emit odor" (which would
be "He'"). A noun "smell" would be something along the lines of
"He'taHghach" (an ugly use of -ghach with a meaningless -taH). Try
something like:
toH, wanI'vammo' He'So'lu'.... (So, because of that event something stinks)
Maybe He'lu' for "smells" instead. I will grant this was not an easy
recasting to come up with, and it isn't even all that good. You can try
things like "'e' vIlarghlaw'" (I seem to smell that (the prospect scares
you)), etc.
>> ><...vIteqlu'pu'...>
>>
>> >> So, if you're drooling ...
>>
>> > tlhInganpu' bolbe'
>>
>> tlha'Ha'chuq mu'lIj (I *do* like that phrasing for complaining about
>> word-order).
>jIH yIQIj
Huh? "me you-explain(-it)"? If you mean "explain it to me" say "jIHvaD
yIQIj" or maybe "HIQIj". Your word-order was wrong: you put the subject
before the verb. "Klingons do not drool" is "bolbe' tlhInganpu'."
>qep'a'Daq qalegh'a'.
HIja', pa' jISaH.
~mark
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