tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Feb 25 06:53:31 2014
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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qoH SuS je bopbogh lut'e'
nIqolay:
>> I will not hide my face behind stone and [brick].
>> nagh ngoch je 'emDaq qabwIj vISo'Qo'.
>>
>> we have a word for "brick" and not one for "mortar".
As for "mortar"... someone once suggested *{HumwI'} "adhesive, glue" from {Hum} "be sticky". You could even add {jeD} "be thick, be dense, be viscous" to the mix ({tlhoQ} "conglomeration".)
QeS:
> Well... no, not strictly. {ngogh} is really more "block" or "chunk" than
> "brick" specifically; we've seen it used to describe, among other things,
> pillows and loaves of bread.
nIqolay::
>> True. I wanted to preserve the "stone and ____" structure of the
>> sentence and couldn't think of any other existing words that could be
>> conceivably be used in a wall,
QeS:
> Two alternatives spring to mind. The only other specific construction
> material item we have is {majyang} "tile". But there is also {baS}
> "metal"; ancient societies on Earth would often stabilise stone
> constructions with metal clamps or staples between blocks.
Actually, nIqolay was right all along. Two years ago Marc emailed Lieven some building terms ("A little bit from Maltz", 9 Jan 2012) which I overlooked while going through my notes yesterday:
Words for "bricklayer," "roof maker," "plumber," and so on are all
based on the verb {mutlh}, meaning "construct, assemble, put together."
Someone who does this, then, is a {mutlhwI'}. Then specific duties
can be specified:
bricklayer {ngogh mutlhwI'} ({ngogh} "brick") (so this is "brick
assembler" or the like)
tiler {majyang mutlhwI'} ({majyang} "tile") [...]
The idea is that a {mutlhwI'} puts things together. So a {ngogh mutlhwI'}
is not (necessarily) someone who makes bricks, but someone who takes
bricks that are already made and assembles them into something (such
as a building) ... so this is "brick assembler" or the like.
Note that {nagh} means "rock, stone" as well as "ceramic material":
KGT 97: Pots that may be put on top of a fire in order to heat their contents are made of metal ({baS}); others may be made of either metal or ceramic material ({nagh} [literally, "stone"]).
Thus *{nagh ngogh} would mean both "stone block" as well as "fired (ceramic) brick".
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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