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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] ramwI'mey

Robyn Stewart ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']



At 11:31 28/02/2012, De'vID jonpIn wrote:
Qov:
> ghoH 'e' parmo' lojmIt tI'wI' nuv chaq DutlhochQo' 'ach jangnISlu'.

jIghoH vIneHbe'.  jIyajchu' vIneH neH.

jISov. 'ach ghoHchoHbe'meH lojmIt tI'wI' nuv yepqu'. pIj tlhochQo'.

De'vID:
>> Duj Daghajbe''a'?  yaHlIjDaq Hung yaH tu'lu'be''a'?

Qov:
> Daj. SeplIjDaq vumwI'pu'vaD nuHmey pol'a' Hung yaSpu'?

Sep'e' vISovbe' 'ach vogh yaHDaq nuHmey polbej Hung yaS.

SepwIjDaq Hung yaSvaD nuH vImuchchugh DajchoH ghu'.

lojmIt tI'wI' nuv:
>> > vIlagh. vIlaghHa'. vIlaghqa'. vIlaghHa'qa'. jImon.

De'vID:
>> DalaghHa''a'?  pagh Damutlh'a'?
>> {laghHa'} lo'lu'chugh laghDI' Qagh 'e' vIQub.  ghaytan DalaghHa'be'.

Qov:
> jIQochqu'. lagh 'ej laghHa'bej. mu'mey ngo' Qaw'be' mu'mey chu'.

pIj {-Ha'} vIyajbe'.  ghorgh {Qagh} 'oS 'ej ghorgh "undo, be/do the
opposite" 'oS?

rambe' Sengvetlh.

rut {Qagh} 'oSba':
{jatlhHa'}
{bachHa'}

"unspeak", "unshoot" je chavlaHbe'mo' vay' "misspeak", "misfire" je 'oSba'.

jIQochbe'.

rut "be the opposite" 'oSba':
{belHa'}
{QuchHa'}

And being the opposite is really not that different in such cases from missing the mark on the first thing.

rut "undo, do the opposite" 'oS:
{tuQHa'}
{buSHa'}
{nobHa'}
{parHa'}

Some of them are canon. Some of them are sometimes ambiguous, but in the case of this weapon it was very clear what he was doing. I don't think it would be wrong to say ...

De'wI'wIj vIlaghtaHvIS bong vIlaghHa'. DaH vagh leQmey vIjomqa'laHbe'.

(jIHvaD teH, je. DaH ESC, F7, F9, F10, INS je vIHutlh).

I honestly don't know whether the distinction is one of familiarity, habit or a subconscious process of analyzing what makes the most sense in context. Unhappy, undo and unredeemed are similar, qar'a'?

qatlh "un-disassemble" 'oS {laghHa'} 'ej "mis-disassemble" 'oSbe'?
vIyajbe'.  {laghHa'} vIlaDDI' {laghDI' Qagh} 'e' vIyaj.

De'vID:
>> (mu' chu' 'oH {mutlh}'e'.  qen wISuqpu'.)

Qov:
> laghbe'pu'chugh 'ej HIch chenmoHmeH 'ay'mey Sar lo'chugh chaq mutlh. laghpu'DI' laghHa'bej.

ramqu' mu' chu'.  {mutlh} wIHutlhchugh, {laghHa'} vIyajmeH choHbe'
mIw.  {-Ha'} vIyajbe'law' neH.

vaj wej wen DayajHa''a' je'? Daj. jabbI'IDlIj wa'DIch vIlaDDI', Dachpu'wI'vaD {mutlh} DamuchmeH chIch DayajHa'law'. (DaH bI'Il 'e' vISov). qen DumISmoHpu' {jatlhHa'} 'e' vIqaw

Qov:
> taghwI' pabpo' 'utlh ghaH lojmIt tI'wI' nuv'e' taghwI' jIHtaHvIS. choHpu' pong neH.

'e' vISov.

vaj vIHub 'e' Dayaj.


p.s. DaH taghwI' pabpo' 'Iv?

jISovbe'. wa' wIHutlhlaw'. rut taghwI'pu' vIjang jIH 'ej beppu' pagh.

Let's play a game. See my next mail.

- Qov


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