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[Tlhingan-hol] How do we know what -Ha' means? (Was: Re: ramwI'mey)

Qov ([email protected])



A discussion about a misunderstood word (attached below) has led to a question about how we know what -Ha' means. I don't remember having had much trouble with it in context, or people unable to understand my usage. Do we just use context and canon? I'll pick some random verbs and you tell me what your tlhIngan Hol Duj tells you they mean. Qagh pagh lagh pagh Dap? I'll give my impressions in another e-mail so as not to prejudice your choices.

nenHa'
cha'Ha'
SevHa'
wuDHa'
tlhIvHa'
jeghHa'
'IqHa'
pumHa'
HeSHa'

Feel free to add more, add examples, write context, whatever adds to the discussion.

- Qov

lojmIt tI'wI' nuv:
>> > vIlagh. vIlaghHa'. vIlaghqa'. vIlaghHa'qa'. jImon.

De'vID:
>> DalaghHa''a'?  pagh Damutlh'a'?
>> {laghHa'} lo'lu'chugh laghDI' Qagh 'e' vIQub.  ghaytan DalaghHa'be'.

Qov:
> jIQochqu'. lagh 'ej laghHa'bej. mu'mey ngo' Qaw'be' mu'mey chu'.

pIj {-Ha'} vIyajbe'.  ghorgh {Qagh} 'oS 'ej ghorgh "undo, be/do the
opposite" 'oS?

rut {Qagh} 'oSba':
{jatlhHa'}
{bachHa'}

"unspeak", "unshoot" je chavlaHbe'mo' vay' "misspeak", "misfire" je 'oSba'.

rut "be the opposite" 'oSba':
{belHa'}
{QuchHa'}

rut "undo, do the opposite" 'oS:
{tuQHa'}
{buSHa'}
{nobHa'}
{parHa'}

{tatlh} neH 'oSbe' {nobHa'}.  {nobpu' ghIq tatlh} 'oS.

qatlh "un-disassemble" 'oS {laghHa'} 'ej "mis-disassemble" 'oSbe'?
vIyajbe'.  {laghHa'} vIlaDDI' {laghDI' Qagh} 'e' vIyaj.

De'vID:
>> (mu' chu' 'oH {mutlh}'e'.  qen wISuqpu'.)

Qov:
> laghbe'pu'chugh 'ej HIch chenmoHmeH 'ay'mey Sar lo'chugh chaq mutlh. laghpu'DI' laghHa'bej.

ramqu' mu' chu'.  {mutlh} wIHutlhchugh, {laghHa'} vIyajmeH choHbe'
mIw.  {-Ha'} vIyajbe'law' neH.


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