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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Eurotalk - New Words - Countries

Josh Badgley ([email protected])



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<font face="Courier New">I had a thought while I was re-reading your email.&nbsp; Perhaps I am missing the point of the new Eurotalk software, but let me explain my crackpot theory.</font><BR><font face="Courier New"></font>&nbsp;<BR><font face="Courier New">Let's say this CD really "covers everyday words Klingons would use if they lived on Earth today", as Eurotalk's website says. So pretend a Klingon&nbsp;decides to visit&nbsp;21st century Earth, for whatever reason.&nbsp;Maybe a whole expedition visits earth and&nbsp;they scatter out across the various nations of the planet.&nbsp;I would imagine this would be a situation analagous to the first European "explorers" visiting the Far East for the first time, or the Americas, or any other remote corner of the world.&nbsp; Now assume our Klingon friend doesn not speak any Terran languages.&nbsp; Instead, he (or she) has to learn bit by bit the native language of wherever they wind up.&nbsp; So one Klingon arrives in Germany and picks up some German.&nbsp;&nbsp;Perhaps they don't master German, but they learn enough to get by.&nbsp;&nbsp;For him (or her), the name of the country is "Deutschland",&nbsp;not "Germany".&nbsp; Later on this Klingon relates his/her adventures to other Klingons.&nbsp; Maybe he has to file a report to his superiors. He tells them he's&nbsp;been on this weird planet.&nbsp; He says specifically he&nbsp;had spent time&nbsp;in a nation that the natives called&nbsp;DoyIchlan.&nbsp; So that's the word that gets added to the Klingon lexicon.</font><BR><font face="Courier New"></font>&nbsp;<BR><font face="Courier New">Maybe?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br id="FontBreak"></font><br><br><font face="Courier New"><br>-- jhb<br></font><br>&nbsp;<BR><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: [email protected]<br>To: [email protected]; [email protected]<br>Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 15:08:51 -0500<br>Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Eurotalk - New Words - Countries<br><br>


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<font face="Courier New">vuQ...De'vamvaD qatlho'.&nbsp; <br id="ecxFontBreak"></font><br><font face="Courier New">'ach DaH Sepvetlh pong 'oH nu'SIylan'e' 'ej vIparHa'.&nbsp; Sachmo' tlhIngan Hol jIQuch.&nbsp; De' jengva'vam 'oHlaw' bI'reS'e'.&nbsp; jISeyqu'.</font><br><font face="Courier New"></font>&nbsp;<br><font face="Courier New">&nbsp;<br><br>-- jhb<br></font><br>&nbsp;<br><div>&gt; From: [email protected]<br>&gt; Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 21:35:40 +0200<br>&gt; To: [email protected]<br>&gt; Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Eurotalk - New Words - Countries<br>&gt; <br>&gt; On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 19:06, Josh Badgley &lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; The New Zealand thing throws me not because they didn't use the Maori name,<br>&gt; &gt; but because "New" does not translate to "nu"...I get the "SIylan" part<br>&gt; &gt; though..<br>&gt; <br>&gt; In Tongan, it's Nu‘u Sila (Nu'u Sila); in Niuean, it's Niu Silani.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Both those Polynesian languages (many of whose speakers live in NZ)<br>&gt; transcribed, rather than translated, the "New" bit.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Struck me as odd when I learned about that, but that's the way it is. *shrug*<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Cheers,<br>&gt; Philip<br>&gt; -- <br>&gt; Philip Newton &lt;[email protected]&gt;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; Tlhingan-hol mailing list<br>&gt; [email protected]<br>&gt; http://stodi.digitalkingdom.org/mailman/listinfo/tlhingan-hol<br></div> 		 	   		  </div>
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