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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Eurotalk - New Words - Countries

Qov ([email protected])



My comments on the list ...

First of all there's a big jolt of happiness because I have long advocated for using the native names of countries--and I see that qe'San has just posted saying that my input was considered there, so I'm leaping around in pride. jImIybe'. jIHem neH.

Also Marc did proper research on many that I didn't, making me wish I'd done the research all those years ago.

Canada - qa'naDa'

I find it a little hard to say! I want to say qanaDa or qa'na'Da' or qa'naDa or qa'NaDa' instead.

Finland - SuwomIy

Love it! Especially as I never was sure I was pronouncing Suomi correctly, and here it is: Klingons pronounce it just like I do.

France - vIraS

It's fine for an English pronunciation and grand for the proper French pronunciation, too. I can really see a Klingon listening to France and writing down vIraS.

Germany - DoyIchlan

At first, and when you listen to the CD ROM it looks like a fine match for Deutchland (sp? sorry) but when you consider Klingon syllabification, it can't not be Do-yIch-lan. Can the oy dipthong be formed across a syllable boundary? "y'all wield swords" is <'etlhmey bo-yan> not <boy-an>. There must be a canon pronunciation of a prefixed verb starting in w or y and I doubt there is a dipthong. So it's Do-yIch-lan and not Doy-'IS-lan

Greece - 'elaDya'

I love it.  I wish that were the English.

New Zealand - nu'SIylan

Same comments as others re New not being translated, but the practice of the surrounding nations makes me accept it as fine.

Portugal - portughal

I called it that like 15 years ago. Booyah!

Russia - raSya'

I was disappointed with this one. It sounds based on the English, not the Russian.

Spain - 'eSpanya'

I think I called that one, too.

Sweden - Suverya'

Our resident Swede has already commended this.

The Netherlands - ne'Derlan

I expected puH 'eS or the like, but I still like it.

Turkey - turIqya'

I don't know Turkish, so have to trust that this one is accurate.

United Kingdom - tuqjIjQa'
United States of America - 'amerI'qa' SepjIjQa'

I like these better now that the typo has been corrected. I tend to say DIvI' not yuQjIjQa', but the three of them make a nice set.

I would definitely lean towards 'alba' and 'erIn for the kids. Heck you could actually NAME kids Alba and Erin without getting cited for child abuse or having them neglected at school.

I'm especially excited by this post not just because it says I helped a little, but because it means tomorrow I can start using the New Words.

- Qov

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