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Re: nom ghel, nom jang

sangqar ([email protected]) [KLI Member] 

> > qugh mu''e'

> Am I the only one who cringes whenever people stick {mu'} in apposition with
> the word in question?

DaHjaj bIqej. yIqel:

> > > 'ach tlhIngan mIwHey lugh vISovbe'.
> >
> > vIjatlh 'e' vIHech je jIH.
>
> potlh'a' ngoDvam?  tlhIngan Hol pab tlhIngan Hol DuH ghap yISaH.  wa' yIwIv!

> > maj.  Hol ngebHa' 'oHchugh "English"-'e', Hol ngeb 'oH tlhIngan Hol'e'
> vaj nIv mu'meylIj.
>
> ngebbe' tlhIngan Hol.  Holna' 'oH.  DaH ngoDvam wItobtaH: maQummeH tlhIngan
> Hol wIlo'taH.

cha'logh mu'lIj'e' jIQochbe'. cha'logh bIbep. qatlh? lugh'a' qechlIj DaDelchugh SoH neH?

> > > <Hol wa'DIch SuqtaHbogh>
> >
> > HIvqa' veqlargh! SuqtaH*ghach*.
>
> "Constant obtaining of a first language."  chatlh!  lI'Ha'chu' <-taH>
> Dalo'pu'bogh.  <-ghach> Dalo' DaneHba'mo' mojaq Dachelta', 'ach mujlaw'.

bIbepqa'. bIQochmo', chaq meq Daghaj.  'ach chatlhna' 'oH'a'?

This suffix indicates that an action is ongoing. [sentences omitted]  Both of the above
sentences suggest a continuing activity. The meaning of -taH can be seen clearly by
comparing the following two commands: [sentences omitted]  In the first case, the maneuver
is to be executed once only. In the second, a series of evasive maneuvers is to be executed--
-the action is to be continuous. (TKD 4.2.7 [p.42])

On the other hand, throw in the {­taH} as we were saying earlier and you have
{tlhutlhtaHghach}, which means <ongoing drinking> or the <process of continuing to drink>,
which is just fine but the English translation overemphasizes the "continuing" part. (HolQeD
3:3)

Hol SuqDI' puq, pe'vIl bI'chu''a'? ghobe'! qaS DISmey Suqchu'pa'.  vaj "ongoing" 'oH.
"continuing" 'oH. vaj lugh {-taH}.

yIqel:

qep'a' wejDIchDaq jatlhtaH tlhIngan Hol HaDwI'pu'.  ghoHtah je. tIv'eghtaH je.  vaj
SuquvmoH. (msn.onstage.startrek.expert.okrand, November 10, 1996)

{-taH} lo' MO. 'ach qaStaHvIS qep'a', qaS jajmey. qep'a'Daq, rut Qong jeSwI'.  vaj qaS
ta'mey, qaS len. qaS ta'mey, qaS len.

tlhoy DI'vI' Hol mu' , <-taH> je DaboqmoH. wa' DI'vI' Hol mu' neH 'oSbe' {-taH}.

{-ghach} Daparba'mo', {-ghach} lo'lu', reH muj 'e' DaQub.  'ach rut lugh.

> SuStel

DaHjaj bIqejqu'.  Sa'HutlIj chop nuq?

-Sangqar

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