tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sun Oct 13 19:08:21 1996
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Re: Atributively used verbs - order by degree
- From: "William H. Martin" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Atributively used verbs - order by degree
- Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 22:09:39 -0400 ()
- Priority: NORMAL
I'd go for a simpler series:
Duj tInqu'
Duj tIn
Duj motlh
Duj mach
Duj machqu'
Five degrees of magnitude are enough so long as measurement is remaining
subjective, and this avoids the controversy over which is bigger, the big
ship, the not-huge ship, or the very-much-not-small ship. Different
people could easily interpret these differently, so why not forego the
negative when trying to describe a positive attribute?
charghwI'
On Sun, 13 Oct 1996 08:07:40 -0700 Bill Willmerdinger
<[email protected]> wrote:
> > From: Marc Ruehlaender <ur-valhalla!iastate.edu!ruehli>
> > Subject: Atributively used verbs - order by degree
> > Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> > Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:18:51 -0700
>
> > I would like to hear(i.e. read) some opinions on the degree
> > of verbs that are used attributively and have none or more :)
> > of the rovers {-be'} and {-qu'}. Below is a listing of how I
> > interpret them, starting with the "biggest" at the top:
>
> These should be pretty clear, but then I thought that maybe *I* don't
> understand correctly, so here's how I interpret these:
>
> > Duj tInqu'
>
> The huge ship; the enormous ship; the gigantic ship
>
> > Duj machbe'qu'
>
> The *not* small ship. {-qu'} emphaticizes whatever it directly before it. In
> this case, it's emphasizing the "not". I see this as similar to using a
> double negative for emphasis.
>
> > Duj tIn
>
> The big ship.
>
> > Duj tInqu'be'
>
> The not huge ship.
>
> > Duj machbe'
>
> The not small ship.
>
> > Duj
>
> The ship.
>
> > Duj tInbe'
>
> The not big ship.
>
> > Duj machqu'be'
>
> The not tiny ship.
>
> > Duj mach
>
> The small ship.
>
> > Duj tInbe'qu'
>
> The NOT big ship.
>
> > Duj machqu'
>
> The tiny ship.
>
> > I didn't include how I conceive those in English, in order to avoid
> > having an influence on your opinion.
>
> cha' DeQwI' tItlhap. (Gee, there's that cardinal/presuppositional business
> again!)
>
>
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