tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Apr 24 10:30:32 1995
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Re: Easter translation
>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 10:44:45 -0400
>Originator: [email protected]
>From: "Mark E. Shoulson" <[email protected]>
>>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 16:52:30 -0400
>>Originator: [email protected]
>>From: [email protected]
>>> Major quibble: {allelu'ya} is definitely not pronounced the way
>>> "Alleluia" is.
>>For one thing, it starts with a vowel, which is not kosher in either Klingon
>>or Hebrew. And that glottal stop seems gratuitous. ~mark, what's the exact
>>Hebrew form?
>The Hebrew is "hal'luyah", with an h at the beginning. Argh, I don't have
>a text with me to verify the precise pointing, but I think I can work it
>out grammatically.
>"Hal'luyah" is a compound of "Hal'lu" + "yah". The first word is a plural
>command: "Praise!" I believe it's spelled h, then "a" (qamatz), then l
>(single l), then a "moving" shwa (i.e. sounded, not silent), then another l
>and u. "Yah" is a name of God, a contraction of the tetragrammaton. It's
>spelled "y" and "a" (qamatz), followed by a *consonantal* h. The final h
>in this word (unlike most in Hebrew) is *pronounced* (and written with a
>dot in it).
>>> That {ll} is pretty weird.
>>No, it's correct.
>I'm pretty sure the Hebrew "l" is not doubled (aside from the fact that
>there's a second after the shwa).
A correction: I looked this up. The "a" in "hal'lu" is a patach, not a
qamatz, though I know what I was thinking when I said it. There definitely
is no doubling of the first l, but I couldn't tell you why. Grammatically,
there should be. I suspect it may be because the verb root has two
identical letters (two l's) and therefore doesn't its second radical
doubled in this form.
>>> How is it pronounced in Latin - {QIySto}? Or, better, in Greek?
>>{QIStUS} and {QIStoS}, respectively, and it means `anointed one'.
>So why not {maSIyaH}?
I hope people didn't take me too seriously... I was just pointing out that
the logic of using one transliterated common noun over another is... well,
not all that logical.
>>--'Iwvan
>~mark
~mark