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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Captain Qov versus Qov's captain

Robyn Stewart (robyn@flyingstart.ca) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']

<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Given enough context, Qov HoD could be understood to represent any captain associated with Qov, but without context most people will take it to be Captain Qov, because SHE is a captain.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>be' ghaH Qov'e'.&nbsp;</div><div>HoD ghaH Qov'e'.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>- Qov</div><div><br>On Oct 15, 2015, at 9:20, Anthony Appleyard &lt;<a href="mailto:a.appleyard@btinternet.com";>a.appleyard@btinternet.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>To return to the apparent ambiguity between {Qov HoD} meaning:-<br>(1) Qov's captain, if he is lower in rank than a captain.<br>(2) Captain Qov, if he is a captain<br><br>Can {Qov HoD} also mean "the captain of the ship that Qov is riding on"?, if Qov is higher rank than a captain (e.g. Qov is an admiral or a king).<br><span class="" id="ouHighlight__0_7TO0_5"><br>{Qov 'oHbogh HoD} would mean "the captain, who is Qov", and would mean </span><span class="" id="ouHighlight__0_7TO0_5">specifically (2).<br></span><br>Presumably rank names are in a special class and can be used in apposition as in {Qov HoD}.<br><br>In the Turkic languages, as in Klingon, "my", "you", etc are suffixes added to a noun, e.g. Turkish<br>[camı] = "mosque", [camısı] = "his mosque". And in Turkish, [Mehmet camısı] = "Mehmet his mosque" = "Mehmet's mosque".<br>(Compare former literary British English spellings such as "St.James his park" for "St.James's park".)<br><br>Thus {Qov HoDDaj} = "Qov, his captain" may specifically mean "Qov's captain", but would be non-Okrandian.<span class="" id="ouHighlight__0_7TO0_5"></span><br><br><p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Tlhingan-hol mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Tlhingan-hol@kli.org";>Tlhingan-hol@kli.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://mail.kli.org/mailman/listinfo/tlhingan-hol";>http://mail.kli.org/mailman/listinfo/tlhingan-hol</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>
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