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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Captain Qov versus Qov's captain

André Müller (

<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Yes to both, kechpaja,<br></div>It would have to be {Qov ghaHbogh HoD&#39;e&#39;} &#39;the captain who is Qov&#39;. Alternatively you could say: {Qov&#39;e&#39; ghaHbogh HoD} &#39;Qov, who is the captain&#39;. I think there are some canonical examples with the {-&#39;e&#39;} missing. Maybe due to mistakes.<br><br></div>{Qov HoDDaj} as used by Anthony, is not just non-Okrandian, but also missleading and not clear. It could only be interpreted as &quot;his captain Qov&quot;. The captain of someone or something, and the captain&#39;s name is Qov. <br><br></div>- André<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-10-15 18:44 GMT+02:00  <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href=""; target="_blank"></a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br>
&gt; {Qov &#39;oHbogh HoD} would mean &quot;the captain, who is Qov&quot;<br>
</span>Sorry to nitpick, but shouldn&#39;t that be {Qov ghaHbogh HoD}, since the captain is presumably a being capable of using language?<br>
Also, tangentially: would you need {&#39;e&#39;} when one of the pronouns is used verbally in a relative clause like that? &quot;The captain is Qov&quot; would traditionally be {Qov ghaH HoD&#39;e&#39;}, if I&#39;m not mistaken.<br>
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