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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Captain Qov versus Qov's captain
André Müller (esperantist@gmail.com)
- From: André Müller <esperantist@gmail.com>
- Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Captain Qov versus Qov's captain
- Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:04:21 +0200
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<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Yes to both, kechpaja,<br></div>It would have to be {Qov ghaHbogh HoD'e'} 'the captain who is Qov'. Alternatively you could say: {Qov'e' ghaHbogh HoD} 'Qov, who is the captain'. I think there are some canonical examples with the {-'e'} missing. Maybe due to mistakes.<br><br></div>{Qov HoDDaj} as used by Anthony, is not just non-Okrandian, but also missleading and not clear. It could only be interpreted as "his captain Qov". The captain of someone or something, and the captain's name is Qov. <br><br></div>- André<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-10-15 18:44 GMT+02:00 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kechpaja@comcast.net" target="_blank">kechpaja@comcast.net</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br>
> {Qov 'oHbogh HoD} would mean "the captain, who is Qov"<br>
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</span>Sorry to nitpick, but shouldn't that be {Qov ghaHbogh HoD}, since the captain is presumably a being capable of using language?<br>
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Also, tangentially: would you need {'e'} when one of the pronouns is used verbally in a relative clause like that? "The captain is Qov" would traditionally be {Qov ghaH HoD'e'}, if I'm not mistaken.<br>
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- kechpaja -<br>
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