Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Beginners corner

[SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name>]

On 8/14/2015 9:57 AM, Steven Boozer wrote:
> ghItlhpu' Maxim, jatlh:
> > > > > {tulghach yIlon naDev 'elwI'pu'}
>
> jang De'vID, jatlh:
> > > > "Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate"
> > > > * Does one "abandon" hope in Klingon?
>
> jang je Voragh, jatlh:
> > > TIP: If you can't find a good noun, try rephrasing with a verb: *{tulHa'choH}.
>
> QeS:
> > petulHa''eghmoHchu' tlhIH, 'o 'elwI'pu'
> > "Cause yourselves to completely lose hope, O those who enter"
>
> Or you can abandon the idea of abandoning hope:
>
>    naDev 'elwI'pu''e', petultaHQo'!
>    Those who enter here, do not continue to hope!
>
> Or even simpler:
>
>    naDev petulQo'!
>    Don't hope here!

"Abandon hope" strongly implies a change of state from hope to 
hopelessness; {-choH} is called for here. Also, though I don't speak 
Italian, the phrase is commonly translated "abandon ALL hope" or "ALL 
hope abandon," which suggests {-chu'} is useful.

petulHa'choHchu' naDev 'elwI'
here-enterers, begin to completely un-hope!

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