tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Jan 04 17:38:02 2013
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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Fwd: RE: Klingon Scrabble
Kind of a rookie solution, but what you could do to check the frequencies of ng/gh/tlh is to make a cooy of your document and then do a Find & Replace thusly:
tlh -> X
gh -> Z
ng -> F
…or some other letters that aren't much used already (do a search first so you can subtract pre-existing ones from the total.
It's important to do gh before ng, because otherwise ngh will become Fh, rather than nZ.
If you'd like, you can also do something similar with alien words/names like Mahoun that you don't want altering the results.
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From: Robyn Stewart [[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 02:18
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Fwd: RE: Klingon Scrabble
I can, but I don't have a platform in which I can write a clever
script, so this counts each character for itself not as part of its
Klingon letter. Here's what I get, with my comments.
72543 - That's the space character, what you'd expect for a 75k
word novel.
44671 a - Our existing distribution gets that right. I wonder if
this is biased by character names. The main character is named vajar.
I'll do a version stripped of character and ship names once I have a
better system.
40793 ' - I told you there weren't enough qaghwI'mey in the
game. It beats out all but one vowel!
28488 h - This combines the letter's presence in tlh and gh, but
excludes H.
23699 o
22652 e
21140 I
20469 H - I expected this to be more common in text than in the
dictionary, because it's in -taH and -Ha' and -laH and -moH and -meH ...
20213 u - last of the vowels
19024 l - biased because this includes l and tlh
17380 t - biased by t + tlh
17291 j - interesting. One of the ship names has a j and so does
the main character's name. That might be a factor. But the main
character also has a v and and r, so I don't think so.
14365 . - Heh. Short sentences, eh?
13634 g - A combination of gh + ng
13627 m
13557 D
13455 n - includes n and ng
11737 S
11226 v
9892 q
9647 c
9530 b
9145 p
7685 y
7653 r
6611 w
5793 Q
So it looks like yay ray way and Qay should be the high-scoring
letters. Whoda thunk there were over three times as many Haymey as Qaymey.
As an indication of the cleanliness of the data, here's the rest.
5067 ,
1702 M - two alien characters, one of whom is a main character,
have names starting in M. The names of alien ships and persons is
also the explanation for most of the non-Klingon alphabetic characters below.
1122 ?
691 !
374 s
172 T
171 -
141 i
132 O
126 A
126 @ - The pIqaD 'ay' titles are typed in xifan hol, which
renders the numbers as cartoon swear words.
120 x
94 U
81 E
76 F
70 R
69 &
63 L
62 :
59 G
57 #
57 $
57 %
55 ^
54 N
51 )
51 (
47 *
43 J
41 P
40 C
39 K
39 B
35 k
30 Y
29 W
27 V
24 X
18 d
16 f
At 22:52 '?????' 1/2/2013, you wrote:
>Robyn,
> Could you analyze your own writings? I bet that would give a good
>letter frequency representation.
>
>Tim Stoffel
>
>--
>
>On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 14:09 -0800, Robyn Stewart wrote:
> > That's an interesting question. Is the letter frequency distribution
> > of a large piece of text different than the frequency distribution in
> > a complete wordlist of that language? I think a list compiled just
> > from TKD affix and vocabulary lists might competitively
> > under-represent qaghwI', as it's in so many affixes.
> >
> > I found a shortage of qaghwI'mey during game play, but the
> > artificiality of the arbitrarily high scores for tlh and ng didn't
> > bother me much. It was just a luck thing.
> >
> > - Qov
> >
> > At 13:21 '?????' 1/1/2013, Felix Malmenbeck wrote:
> > > At the risk of showcasing my ignorance with regards to Scrabble:
> > >
> > > Does one actually need a corpus to decide character values for
> > > Scrabble? I imagine that a lexicon along with the rules for
> > > appending affixes would suffice, as the deciding factor is what
> > > words can be formed, rather than what words are most commonly used
> > > (or do rare/difficult words weigh more heavily in that
> > > calculation?).
> > >
> > >
> > > ____________________________________________________________________
> > > From: David Holt [[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 22:14
> > > To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list
> > > Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Fwd: RE: Klingon Scrabble
> > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Alan Anderson
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > I got it from DloraH, who got it from janSIy, who I believe
> > > originated it.
> > >
> > > I didn't originate it, but I may have been the first one to bring a
> > > converted set to the qep'a'. I got the frequencies and values off
> > > this very list and I no longer remember who did the calculations or
> > > came up with the values. It was probably 15 years ago. The game is
> > > fun, but the scores are somewhat artificial since the point values
> > > were based on rarity of English letters and so it's weird to have
> > > common letters like <tlh> be worth so many points. I think any new
> > > calculations should be based on Qov's <nuq bop bom>, since that is a
> > > large piece of original tlhIngan Hol writing.
> > >
> > > janSIy
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