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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Fwd: RE: Klingon Scrabble

Robyn Stewart ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']

I can, but I don't have a platform in which I can write a clever script, so this counts each character for itself not as part of its Klingon letter. Here's what I get, with my comments.
72543 - That's the space character, what you'd expect for a 75k word novel. 44671 a - Our existing distribution gets that right. I wonder if this is biased by character names. The main character is named vajar. I'll do a version stripped of character and ship names once I have a better system. 40793 ' - I told you there weren't enough qaghwI'mey in the game. It beats out all but one vowel! 28488 h - This combines the letter's presence in tlh and gh, but excludes H. 
23699   o
22652   e
21140   I
20469 H - I expected this to be more common in text than in the dictionary, because it's in -taH and -Ha' and -laH and -moH and -meH ... 
20213   u  - last of the vowels
19024   l   - biased because this includes l and tlh
17380   t   - biased by t + tlh
17291 j - interesting. One of the ship names has a j and so does the main character's name. That might be a factor. But the main character also has a v and and r, so I don't think so. 
14365   .  - Heh. Short sentences, eh?
13634   g - A combination of gh + ng
13627   m
13557   D
13455   n - includes n and ng
11737   S
11226   v
9892    q
9647    c
9530    b
9145    p
7685    y
7653    r
6611    w
5793    Q
So it looks like yay ray way and Qay should be the high-scoring letters. Whoda thunk there were over three times as many Haymey as Qaymey. 

As an indication of the cleanliness of the data, here's the rest.

5067    ,
1702 M - two alien characters, one of whom is a main character, have names starting in M. The names of alien ships and persons is also the explanation for most of the non-Klingon alphabetic characters below. 
1122    ?
691     !
374     s
172     T
171     -
141     i
132     O
126     A
126 @ - The pIqaD 'ay' titles are typed in xifan hol, which renders the numbers as cartoon swear words. 
120     x
94      U
81      E
76      F
70      R
69      &
63      L
62      :
59      G
57      #
57      $
57      %
55      ^
54      N
51      )
51      (
47      *
43      J
41      P
40      C
39      K
39      B
35      k
30      Y
29      W
27      V
24      X
18      d
16      f

At 22:52 '?????' 1/2/2013, you wrote:

Robyn,
    Could you analyze your own writings? I bet that would give a good
letter frequency representation.

Tim Stoffel

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On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 14:09 -0800, Robyn Stewart wrote:
> That's an interesting question. Is the letter frequency distribution
> of a large piece of text different than the frequency distribution in
> a complete wordlist of that language?  I think a list compiled just
> from TKD affix and vocabulary lists might competitively
> under-represent qaghwI', as it's in so many affixes.
>
> I found a shortage of qaghwI'mey during game play, but the
> artificiality of the arbitrarily high scores for tlh and ng didn't
> bother me much. It was just a luck thing.
>
> - Qov
>
> At 13:21 '?????' 1/1/2013, Felix Malmenbeck wrote:
> > At the risk of showcasing my ignorance with regards to Scrabble:
> >
> > Does one actually need a corpus to decide character values for
> > Scrabble? I imagine that a lexicon along with the rules for
> > appending affixes would suffice, as the deciding factor is what
> > words can be formed, rather than what words are most commonly used
> > (or do rare/difficult words weigh more heavily in that
> > calculation?).
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________________________________
> > From: David Holt [[email protected]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 22:14
> > To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Fwd: RE: Klingon Scrabble
> >
> > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Alan Anderson
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > I got it from DloraH, who got it from janSIy, who I believe
> > originated it.
> >
> > I didn't originate it, but I may have been the first one to bring a
> > converted set to the qep'a'.  I got the frequencies and values off
> > this very list and I no longer remember who did the calculations or
> > came up with the values.  It was probably 15 years ago.  The game is
> > fun, but the scores are somewhat artificial since the point values
> > were based on rarity of English letters and so it's weird to have
> > common letters like <tlh> be worth so many points.  I think any new
> > calculations should be based on Qov's <nuq bop bom>, since that is a
> > large piece of original tlhIngan Hol writing.
> >
> > janSIy
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