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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] tlhInganpu' chu'

Felix Malmenbeck (felixm@kth.se)



Another word that may or may not be relevant is {ghantoH} (e-mail to 'ISqu' - January 15, 2012):

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model, example, pattern (n) is ghantoH  (Maltz is assuming this refers to
something one copies or refers to in making things --  or something along
those lines)

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Not the kind of model you make (I agree with ghunchu'wI''s suggestion of {velqa'}), but it might come in handy; perhaps it could be used for certain templates or the like.

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From: Steven Boozer [sboozer@uchicago.edu]
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 16:58
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] tlhInganpu' chu'

De'vID:
>> STID-vaD tlhInganpu'qoq chu' renlu'pu'.

'eD (Bellerophon, modeler):
> 'o De'vID! wa' wot vIyajbe': "ren." wotvam yIQIj!

{ren} "design, map out, plan" (v)

Marc Okrand wrote to architect Lieven Litaer (10/24/2011):

  [Maltz] did say, though, that there is a verb {ren} that
  means design or map out or plan. He said that {renwI'}
  (which I guess in its most general sense means "designer")
  is a perfectly good term for architect, but it can also be
  used for someone who designs a vehicle, say. That is, it's
  not restricted to buildings. He said it would not be used
  for architect in the sense of someone being the architect
  of a plan to do something; it has to be used of a person
  who designs a physical object of some sort. {ren} is not
  the same as {'ogh} "invent", which implies creating some-
  thing that hasn't been created before. And it's not the
  same as {nab} "plan" which is used for planning an event
  (or a battle strategy or whatever), just as the noun {nab}
  "plan} cannot be used to refer to blueprints.

Lieven later wrote (11/15/2011):

  By the way, the word for blueprint mentioned below is
  {pu'jIn}, a word we learned some years ago.

Okrand to Lieven (11/20/2009):

  I did see [Maltz] earlier today as he was running off
  to grab a cup of coffee or something. I told him about
  the lack of good words relating to architecture. He
  said he wasn't an architect himself, so he'd have to
  think about that. But he did know the word for plan
  (the big piece of paper). He said it's {pu'jIn} - same
  as the word for "map".

> My modeling blog:        http://bellerophon-modeler.blogspot.com/
> My other modeling blog:  http://bellerophon.blog.com/

As a modeler, you'll find another of Okrand's emails to Lieven interesting (1/09/2012):

  Words for bricklayer, roof maker, plumber, and so on are
  all based on the verb {mutlh}, meaning "construct, assemble,
  put together". Someone who does this, then, is a {mutlhwI'}.
  [...] The idea is that a {mutlhwI'} puts things together. So
  a {ngogh mutlhwI'} is not (necessarily) someone who makes
  bricks, but someone who takes bricks that are already made
  and assembles them into something (such as a building).
  Similarly, a {beb mutlhwI'} doesn't make the roof, but,
  rather, lays out the shingles or planks or stones or
  whatever the roof is made out of.



--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons



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