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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qo''e' tu'bogh pagh - 'ay' chorgh
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ghItlhpu' De'vID, jatlh:<br>> Does anyone want to volunteer to translate this next chunk? Or, how about if we do it by committee?<br><br>jIjeSqang jIH.<br><br>taH:<br>> I found it really hard to express some of these ideas: "nature abhors a vacuum", "turning points in history", "the universe unfolds", "logic is the beginning of wisdom"... yikes.<br><br>Yikes indeed. Challenging! I'll give you my take on the whole passage, ghIq DapollaH pagh DapolHa'laH.<br><br><div>
> SPOCK: You've done well, Valeris. As your sponsor at the Academy I've followed your career with satisfaction. And as a Vulcan, you have exceeded my expectations.<BR><br><BR>Assuming that "As a Vulcan" is referring to Spock, since he's just talked about himself in the "as your sponsor at the Academy" phrase:<br><BR><br><BR>SPOCK: bIQapchu'pu', Valeris. 'ampaSvaD naDwI'lI' jIH; vaj naDwI'lI' yontaH Qu'meylIj. 'ej vulqangan jIH; vaj chavlIj pov law' chav vIpIHbogh pov puS.<br><BR><br><BR>
> VALERIS: I do not understand this representation.<br>
> (referring to a painting on the wall)<BR><br><BR>VALERIS: mIlloghvam vIyajbe'.<br>
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<br><BR>I agree that though {nagh beQ} is obviously the best word for the artwork itself, {mIllogh} is better here to translate what Valeris says.<BR><br><BR>
> SPOCK: It's a depiction from ancient Earth mythology. 'The Expulsion from Paradise.'<BR><br><BR>SPOCK: tera' wIch tIQ bey' 'oH. {QI'tu'vo' lumejmoHlu'}. (Assuming that the Expulsion is that of Adam and Eve, therefore plural.)<br><BR><br><BR>
> VALERIS: Why keep it in your quarters?<br>
<BR><br><BR>VALERIS: qatlh pa'lIj Dapol?<br><BR><br><BR>> SPOCK: To be a reminder to me that all things end.<br><BR><br><BR>SPOCK: Dor Hoch 'e' muqawmoH.<br><BR><br><BR>
> VALERIS: It is of endings that I wish to speak. Sir, I address you as a kindred intellect.<br><BR><br><BR>VALERIS: Dormo' vay' qajatlh vIneH. qaH, yablIjvaD QummeH yabwIj qajatlh.<BR><br><BR>> Do you not recognise ...that a turning point has been reached in the affairs of the Federation?<BR><br><BR>I think I'd recast this fairly heavily.<br><br>VALERIS: DaH DIvI' qaD wIv potlh 'e' Daghovbe''a'?<br>"Do you not recognise that an important choice now challenges the Federation?"<br><br><BR>
> SPOCK: History is replete with turning points, Lieutenant. You must have faith.<BR><br><BR>SPOCK: wIv potlhmo' buy'chu' qun, Sogh. bIHarnIS.<br><BR><br>
> VALERIS: Faith?<BR><br><BR>VALERIS: nuq vIHarnIS?<br><BR><br><BR>
> SPOCK: That the universe will unfold as it should.<BR><br><BR>SPOCK: 'u' San lupab 'u' wanI' 'e' DaHarnIS.<br><BR><br>
> VALERIS: But is this logical? Surely we must...<BR><br><BR>VALERIS: 'e' wImeqlaH'a'? meqmo'...<br><BR><br>
> SPOCK: Logic? ...Logic is the beginning of wisdom, Valeris, not the end. ...This will be my final voyage on board this vessel as a member of her crew.<BR><br><BR>SPOCK: meq? mameqDI', Valeris, Sov bI'reS wItu', Sov bertlham wItu'be'. Dujvam beq vIgheSmeH Qu' Qav 'oH Qu'vam'e'.<br><BR><br>> Nature abhors a vacuum. I intend you to replace me.<BR><br><BR>choqa' 'e' vIHech. (You now have a bundle of suggestions for "Nature abhors a vacuum" - take your pick.)<br><BR><br>
> VALERIS: I could only succeed you, sir.<br>
<BR><br><BR>VALERIS: qacho'laH neH, qaH. (Actually, that's a lovely bit of wordplay between {choqa'} "you replace me" and {qacho'} "I succeed you".)<br><BR><br><BR>> UHURA (on intercom): Now hear this. All officers to the bridge.<br>
> Klingon battle cruiser off the port bow. All officers to the bridge.<BR><br>UHURA: DaH peqIm. Hoch yaS, SIbI' meH jaH. Duj poSDaq tlhIngan may'Duj. SIbI' meH jaH.<br><br>QeS 'utlh<br></div> </div></body>
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