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Re: Usage of -Ha' (was: Checking understanding of -be')

Christopher Doty (

Aha! I missed that last sentence somehow.  <-Ha'> seems much clearer
now, thanks!


On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 17:01, David Trimboli <> wrote:
> Christopher Doty wrote:
>> <-Ha'> is still a bit of a mystery to me, as its
>> discussion in TKD is so brief.  It looks like it rovers in the same
>> way as <-be'>, but that isn't explicitly stated, so it's not really
>> clear...
> {-Ha'} doesn't "rove," even though it's called a rover. It always comes
> right after the verb, before any other suffixes. It gives the verb a
> sense of either "undo" or "do wrongly."
> {leghbe'} means that the subject does not see something; it implies
> nothing about whether the subject was ever able to see the thing.
> {leghHa'} means that the subject "unsees" something; something was seen,
> but is now not seen. Or it could mean "see something wrongly"; the
> subject sees something, but misinterprets what it sees, or doesn't get
> the right image. Whether the correct interpretation of {-Ha'} is "undo"
> or "do wrongly" seems to depend on context.
> --
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