On May 27, 2009, at 9:01 PM, qa'vaj wrote: > {-vaD} also marks the indirect object. I opine differently. What I recall TKD's addendum saying is that the recipient of a gift may be considered the indirect object. I do not consider someone being shot to be the same sort of thing. In my mind, the target is a location, not a beneficiary. -- ghunchu'wI'