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vIl - be ridgy in HolQeD 13:1

qe'San \(Jon Brown\) (qeSan@btinternet.com) [KLI Member]



Can anyone tell me if  HolQeD 13:1 was also the first time that vIl was 
used?

I'd missed vIl at the time 13:1 came out in the sense of I didn't have the 
word recorded and only discovered it a few weeks ago when re-reading my 
HolQeD.  So now I'm wondering if it was given to us anywhere else prior to 
that?

Before that I always thought that to a Klingon their ridges are normal and 
smooth wasn't so forehead implied ridges.

QuchwIj pIm QuchlIj
Your forehead is different to mine (i.e. different family)

Although thinking about that sentence; can [pIm] be used like that or would 
I need to say that differently to get that meaning?

QuchlIj Hab law' vovlI' Quch Hab puS
You forehead is smoother that your fathers
Which I thought also made quite a good insult with ref to parentage 
(assuming the grammar is correct).

Whatever the case it's nice to add vIl - be ridgy to my dictionary.but it 
would be good to know where it was first used.

qe'San






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "qe'San (Jon Brown)" <qeSan@btinternet.com>
>
> From: "David Trimboli" <david@trimboli.name>
>> It was said that there is a canonical example of a comparative sentence
>> using {law'be'} and {puSbe'}. What is it, and where is it found?
>
> See Maltz's Reward Part IV  HolQeD 13:1 pg 10:
>
> QuchwIj vIl law' QuchlIj vIl puS
> my forehead is reidgier than your forehead
>
> To diagree with this notion, that is, to assert that your forehead is not
> ridgier than mine (it may be the same), one would use the construction A Q
> law'be'  B Q puSbe' (A's Q is not many, B's Q is not few) (-be' not):
>
> QuchlIj vIl law'be' QuchwIj vIl puSbe'
> your forehead isn't ridgier than my forehead
>
> qe'San
>
>
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