tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Dec 21 13:43:03 2007
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Re: Apology and continued search
Steven Boozer wrote:
> I admit that I haven't been following this and all the other related
> threads in detail, but what about:
>
> veng vIDabbogh 'oH CHICAGO'e'.
> Chicago is the city where I live/dwell.
> Chicago is the city in which (wherein) I dwell/reside.
> ("Chicago is the city that I inhabit.")
>
> yuQ wIghoStaHbogh 'oH Qo'noS'e'.
> Kronos is the planet where we are headed.
> Kronos is the planet we are going to.
> ("Kronos is the planet that we are approaching".)
>
> Of course, this only works with verbs with a "built in" locative sense --
> like {Dab} "reside in/at, dwell in/at, inhabit" or {ghoS} "follow a course,
> proceed, come toward, approach" off the top of my head. Can anyone think
> of other such verbs?
Okrand confirmed (HolQeD 7:4) that the verbs ghoS, jaH, 'el, leng, and
paw can take locatives as their objects, but adding {-Daq} to the object
is marked because it's redundant (but legal). A locative header
indicates WHERE the action is happening, while a locative or
non-locative noun indicates the TARGET of the action.
He also comments on the verbs bav, Dech, ngaS, and vegh, saying that
they don't need {-Daq} on their objects. He doesn't say that's wrong,
just that you don't need them.
I have no doubt that {Dab} would also be one of those words that allow a
redundant locative suffix on the object, as you suggest.
SuStel
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