tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue May 02 08:59:11 2006
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Re: Stovokor
Shane MiQogh:
> >> ghe'torDaq jIHchugh, DaquvHa'lu'ta'.
> >> "If you're in grethor, one has dishonored you."
Voragh:
>{quvHa'} is "be dishonored". To dishonor someone else, use {-moH}:
>
> DaquvHa'moHlu'ta'
> you have been (intentionally) dishonored
> someone has (intentionally) dishonored you
ghunchu'wI':
> >how would your being in Grethor have anything to do with
> >someone else's having been dishonored?
Voragh (not 5 minutes ago):
> [....]
> qaStaHvIS wej puq poHmey vav puqloDpu' puqloDpu'chaj je
> quvHa'moH vav quvHa'ghach
> The dishonor of the father dishonors his sons and their
> sons for three generations. TKW
> [....]
>You know, we've always assumed that your own actions lands you in Gre'thor,
>but I wonder... Do Klingons believe that you can be dishonored by someone
>else's actions? E.g. a ship's crew being dishonored en masse by the
>cowardly behavior of their captain fleeing an overwhelming enemy in
>panic? (Perhaps the dishonor would arise if the crew failed to kill the
>coward and take their ship back into combat to - hopefully - die gloriously.)
Boy, I'm not paying attention to my own posts. The TKW example proves you
*can* be dishonored by someone else. Not to mention that Worf accepted
discommendation and was officially dishonored by the alleged acts of his
father Mogh (ENT "Sins of the Father"). So grammar aside, Shane's post is
entirely possible - if somewhat obscure.
HIvqa' veqlargh. (appropriately enough!)
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons