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Re: tlhach mu'mey: HolQeD...

...Paul ([email protected]) [KLI Member] 

Oh, and please feel free, if you guys have free time, to edit the page 
yourselves...

Is Alan still the wikimaster?  I was wondering if he could add the 
"contents" page to the front page of the wiki -- it takes me forever to 
try to find interesting pages on there (and I've already added a link to 
the linguistic jargon page I crated on the ToC page...)

...Paul

On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, ...Paul wrote:

> I created a page (mostly a placeholder) on the wiki:
>
> /wiki/index.php?Linguistic%20Terms
>
> I'll have to sit down with your email later tonight, I've gotten a little
> busy at work today, and add them all in (and tidy up the layout, etc).
>
> Quick note, though, I really like the use of /DoS/ for "object"  (perhaps
> more formally /wot DoS/), and similarly, the idea of then using
> /qIp(be')bogh/ for "(in)transitive verb"...
>
> ...Paul
>
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Steven Boozer wrote:
>
>> ...Paul:
>>> We need to create a list of linguistics jargon on the wiki.  We can
>>> discuss it here...
>>>
>>> I was able to find these in the dictionary...
>>>
>>>   word -> mu'
>>>   sentence -> mu'tlhegh
>>>   vocabulary -> mu'tay'
>>>   noun -> DIp
>>>   verb -> wot
>>>   chuvmey -> pronouns, adverbs, etc.
>>>   prefix -> moHaq
>>>   suffix -> mojaQ
>>>   grammar -> pab
>>
>> Don't forget rover  -> {lengwI'}
>>
>>> But how about:
>>>
>>>   subject -> ?
>>>   predicate -> ?
>>>   object -> ?
>>
>> {DoS} "target" (n.) seems appropriate.  This brings up some wordplay:
>>
>>   the Klingon phrase {wa' DoS wIqIp} ("We hit one target") or
>>   the shorter {DoS wIqIp} ("We hit a target") is frequently
>>   heard in conversations that have nothing to do with shooting,
>>   targets, or even weaponry. It is a way of saying "We agree."
>>   (KGT 105-06)
>>
>> I've used *{Qay(be')bogh wot} for "(in)transitive verb". [cf. Rus.
>> *perekhodnyi glagol*] though maybe *{qIp(be')bogh wot} may be better.
>>
>>>   indirect object -> ?
>>>   adjective -> ?
>>>   letter -> ?
>>
>> I've seen *{DeghHom} often used for "letter (of alphabet)" on this
>> List.  {pIqaD} "the native Klingon writing system" is sometimes used for
>> "alphabet, syllabary, etc.".
>>
>>> I can come up with a few phrases on my own that might convey some of
>>> these, like perhaps /Delbogh wot'e'/ "verb which describes" for
>>> "adjective", but I don't want to come off authoritarian (maybe the
>>> concensus is that /Delbogh mu''e'/ is better,
>>
>> Purpose-nouns may be better for these linguistic terms:  *{DelmeH wot}
>> "quality, stative verb."
>>
>> Other terms (some of my own invention) I've found in my notes are:
>>
>> *{HolHom} is widely used on this List for "dialect", implying *{Hol'a'}
>> "Ursprache, parent language" (e.g. Indo-European, Proto-Semitic).
>>
>> *{vangmeH wot} "action verb"
>>
>> *{vang'eghbogh mojaq} "reflexive suffix"
>>
>> *{vangchuqbogh mojaq} "reciprocal suffix"
>>
>> *{DIp lIw} "pronoun" - or just {lIw} "substitute, stand-in, temporary
>> surrogate".  Glen Proechel used
>> *{DIpvaD tam}.
>>
>> *{mu'tlhegh'a'} "paragraph" (from David Barron)
>>
>> *{mu'tlheghghom} "corpus" (also *{chovnatlhghom})
>>
>> *{mu'tlheghHom} "clause".  Qov once used *{mu'tlheghHom potlh} for "main
>> clause".
>>
>> *{yu'bogh mu'} "interrogative" (Glen Proechel)
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Voragh
>> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
>>
>>
>>
>
>          ** ...Paul, [email protected], Insane Engineer **
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>
>

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