tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sat Apr 01 16:58:05 2006
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Re: more Okuda pIqaD?
At 6:42 PM -0500 4/1/06, [email protected] wrote:
> [email protected] writes:
>>> I hadn't thought of it being in Vulcan.
>> But I'm thinking that even if it's "in Vulcan", what that probably
>> means is that it's a "Vulcan" word written [phonetically] in [...]
>> English, then having piQaD characters replacing the English ones
>> correspondingly. There might not be any real grammatical sense to
>> the text though.
> The Vulcan language may have no relevance here at all, since the
> sign itself is located in the *town* of Vulcan [...]
I understand that, but I thought an earlier poster was implying
something about the text being in the Vulcan language somehow.
Ah, here it is:
Terrence Donnelly <[email protected]> wrote:
> Trying to apply these values to the Vulcan sign looks hopeless to
> me. And if the sign really says "welcome" _in Vulcan_, then all
> bets are off on what the text is even supposed to say.
The way he stressed "_in Vulcan_", and the grammar around it, made
me think he meant the language. My apologies if that was incorrect.
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[email protected] writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> [email protected] writes:
>>> Actually, vulcan (even though it's not a language) dosn't have
>>> any vowels.
>> Of course there is a Vulcan language. And it has vowels. Why would
>> you say otherwise?
> From what i've heard, the only star trek based language is
> Klingon. Who developed the vulcan language and when?
Perhaps if you'd followed the links I provided. The first one has
this to say:
Q> The late Dale Murphy devised an ancient Vulcan language, called
Q> "FthinraKathi", for use in an unpublished Star Trek universe novel
Q> (and planned sequels) he wrote before any of Diane Duane's books
Q> were published.
Further, if you Google you can find a book at lulu.com by Mark R.
Gardner, who claims copyright on the pages I mentioned the links
for, so it would seem the "modern Vulcan language" is his. I'll
allow you to research further.
That said, I don't believe Vulcan is a "usable" language in the
booklet I have; it was almost entirely vocabulary without grammar.
The webpage seems to have actual grammar, so maybe it's not related
to that fanbook at all.
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