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Re: Using object prefixes with "intransitive" verbs

David Trimboli ([email protected])

• From: "David Trimboli" <[email protected]>
• Subject: Re: Using object prefixes with "intransitive" verbs
• Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:41:01 -0500
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From: "QeS lagh" <[email protected]>

> ghItlhpu' Dar'Qang:
>
> >I typed 'through', but really meant 'via'.  I was looking for how much of
a
> >sense of 'via' is created using -Daq with verbs of motion.  These
sentences
> >were just examples.
> >I'm a little hesitant to go too strictly by 'in/at/on' because of the
> >idiomatic nature of prepositions.
>
> I'd say that "via" in English is more an instrumental ("by means of") than
a
> locative, and therefore doesn't fall under the umbrella of meanings
provided
> by {-Daq}. With this in mind, I would recast your sentence to
>
> {pa'Daq vI'elmeH lojmIt vIlo'} or {pa' vI'elmeH lojmIt vIlo'}

maj.  pup mu'tlheghmeyvam.

> as opposed to, say, {pa'Daq vI'elmeH Qorwagh vIlo'} "I entered the room
via
> the window". I think that's a more likely situation; one normally wouldn't
> say {pa'Daq vI'elmeH lojmIt vIlo'}, you'd just say {pa' vI'el}, unless you
> really are a fan of extraordinary redundancy in your speech. :)

Dojbej mu'tay'lIj 'ej lI'.  ghu' DelmeH pup "instrumental".

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