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Re: geography

David Trimboli ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']

From: "Lieven L. Litaer (Quvar)" <[email protected]>

> - Untranslated is not good, it would be the only word untranslated in the
text, and it's not that important
> for the story wether 'tis {puHQeD} or {yotlhQeD}.
>
> - Another way to say it is still a problem.
> I think
>    {puH Sep Doch je pongmey qonbogh tej}
> is more confusing than
>    {puHtej}
> (btw, a {puHtej} is a {tej} for {puH} isn't it?)

TKD gives us rules for combining nouns.  This is the noun-noun construction.

TKD does not give us rules for squishing two nouns into the same word.
These are compound nouns, and TKD simply describes them; it doesn't say we
can construct them.

I would accept {puH tej} as a legal construction.  Without the consent of a
Klingon, I would not accept {puHtej}.

And if you say they're the same thing when you say them, then you'll have no
problem with writing it as {puH tej}.

> - Local use? You mean, like {pemHov} is used in Hamlet for "sun", although
it's not canon?
> I believe I will then choose this option, since there are few other words
like this.

Sort of.  What I mean is to explicitly mention that the word you're using
was made up by you.

SoQvamvaD mu' vI'ogh: puHQeD.  puH QulDI' tej, puHQeD ghaH.

> -.-.-.-.--.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
> Perhaps I should restate my question.
> If {puHtej} is "geography" - we don't know.
>
> Then please tell me, what's the exact difference between
>     yotlh, ghor, Hatlh, puH?

I believe Okrand explains some of this in KGT.  I don't have the book handy,
but look near the beginning, when he starts describing regionalisms.

> And which of these could be used for what geography concerns?
>
> You understand {puHQeD}, don't you? What do you understand in
>      yotlhQeD, ghorQeD, HatlhQeD, puHQeD?

I understood {puHQeD} because you also used the word "geography" in your
post.  It might not be that obvious.  "Land-science."  Is that soil
analysis?  Study of land-based biology?  There are a number of
interpretations.

Are you trying to gauge how many people can correctly guess your meaning in
a made-up word?  You want a guessing contest?

I can put a lot of meanings to the formations you used above.  They're still
not known words.  You acknowledge this, but you're still trying to use them
as words.

SuStel
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