tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Nov 07 13:39:38 2003
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Re: toH!
Quvar:
> >> I sometimes use a curse:
> >> {va! ghetchu'}
> >> "Fu**, he's good!"
> >> Perhaps I use it too often, at home :-)
Tyler:
>>Are you sure {va} is the word you want to use? As many know, {Qu'vatlh}
>>is used in moments of extreme anger. Since {va} is a shortened version of
>>{Qu'vatlh}, I can only assume it has the same meaning.
Quvar:
>Good point!
Tyler:
>>Is extreme anger really what you're trying to communicate here?
Quvar:
>It is not. [...] Now seriously, you're right. I was thinking in the
>english slang where the F-word is used too often (see the movies).
My first instinct was to ues {va} as well, but I changed my mind for the
very reason Tyler makes.
>But now I've found a better way:
>
> TKD addendum 5.4. Adverbials gives use {jay'}
> <<<<<
> This word not only intensifies whatever is being said, it turns the
> whole phrase into an
> invective. Alone among the adverbials, {jay'} always comes at the end
> of the sentence.
> >>>>>
>
>{ghetchu' jay'} "He pretends #$*@ perfectly!"
>
>(Okay, this is still a bit negative.)
Exactly. If you remember my comment which triggered this chain, I had just
used {jay'} in the previous sentence:
tlhInganna' Daqu' ghetwI'vam jay'! toH ghetchu'.
This actor really makes a damn fine Klingon! Boy, can he act.
Which I later revised:
tlhInganna' Dachu' ghetwI'vam jay'! ghetbejqu'!
If we follow Quvar:
tlhInganna' Dachu' ghetwI'vam jay'! ghetchu' jay!
then I feel that two #&*@ {jay'}s in a row is really TOO MUCH #&*@
invective here!!! <g>
Besides, it doesn't capture the feeling of pleasant surprise that I was
trying to convey when one watches an exceptionally good performance of a
{ghetwI'na'}. toH! (Aha!) That's what I want:
tlhIngan Dachu' ghetwI'vam jay'! ghetwI'na' ghaH!
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons