tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Jun 26 10:04:22 2003
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Re: Pronunciation
- From: "marien danzig" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Pronunciation
- Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:58:38 +0000
In response, i will quote an age-old proverb:
"If it was easy, everyone would do it."
Then, of corse, there is the slacker up-date to that proverb:
"If it was easy, i would do it."
:P
--skull
>From: Klingon Warrior <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Pronunciation
>Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:35:52 -0700 (PDT)
>
>NOTE: Knowing how defensive some of us get about the Honorable Language
>and certain things said on this list, please note that this post is to do
>no more than merely state a common problem and to listen to possible
>solutions to that problem as well as arguments (both for and against)
>written in response to this post.
>
>Is it just me or is pronouncing Klingon difficult? Not because of the
>foreign sounds or weird syntax, but because there is no consistency with
>any of the pronunciation guides. I find that too many programs out there
>have flashcard and pronunciation keys that vary on how to pronounce
>Klingon. One program may say to pronounce a certain letter this way, some
>CD Rom game says differently, and a book contradicts both. And of course
>the actors are no help :) Does anyone else have this problem? As much as
>I adore Okrand and what he's done, I find that listening to his tapes or to
>him on StarTrek: Klingon confuses me even more. He says a letter is
>propronounced a certain way, but when he does it in the middle of a
>sentence or word, it's never the same sound. I find that too often I am
>changing, yet again, how I pronounce letters because I think that I
>"finally got it." Now granted, most letters and most of the language is
>standard and not hard to comprehend, but letters like: gh,
> H, Q give me concerns. Those, with me, change the most frequently. In
>fact, I try reading the Dictionary over and over again, but I don't think
>Okrand dictates how to pronounce letters very well. How do I know what his
>"non-vibrating throat" sounds in comparison to mine. And that's part of
>the problem. When going to conventions and taking the "Klingon 101"
>seminars, the guys had NO clue how to pronounce Klingon! They would
>pronounce the letter j as if it were French! And I know that's not the
>way it is..."jar," "jug," "jump" not "Jean-Luc." So, do you Warriors have
>the same problem, or have you dictated enough classes that you know the
>language pretty well? I once read an Internet column about the
>language...can't remember who they quoted but it said that Klingon is more
>of a written language than it is spoken. I think that this could be due to
>the confusion in pronunciation as well as the lack of numbers we have in
>speaking Klingon.
>
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>
>Klingon Warrior
>taHjaj wo'!
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