tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Feb 13 11:57:57 2003
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Re: Syllabification
> > When that name is spoken, are there any glottal stops?
>
> How do we know that a similar sounding Klingon name does not
> contain a glottal stop, since we cannot tell simply looking
> at the anglicised spelling. It could very well be that
> the Klingon spelling of "Ngarakkani" contains a glottal stop
> somewhere.
When I asked "are there any glottal stops?" I was truely asking. I don't know
how the owner pronounces it.
> >Depending on how the name is pronounced, glottal stops
> >could be added after any
> >of the vowels; or you could put it before a vowel (except
> >the first one) and
> >then move the previous C to the previous syllable.
> >One example: nga'-ra-qan-'I
> >
> In order to satisfy the "no-C-cluster-with-glottal-stop"
> constraint. Right.
no-C-cluster whether or not one of those C is a '.
/n'I/ just doesn't work as a klingon syllable.
> >BUT, since this is a name, we're usually not concerned with following these
> >rules. Several people here have names that don't fit the syllable pattern.
>
> Wouldn't these names fit into the
> Anglicised-Klingon-Spelling box, where you sometimes find
> apostrophes in the weirdest positions, with the
> non-anglicised-Klingon forms conforming to the 'rules'?
Most, yes. But with my name, the non-anglicised-klingon is NOT /DIloraH/,
putting that extra V in there to break up the C cluster.
I came up with the name before I was aware of the CVC/CV; and then kept the
name anyways. If someone continues to have a problem with it, they can call me
by my house name or "Son of...", both of which do fit the CVC/CV
DloraH, naD puqloD, Seruq tuq
> YET One is not allowed to get rid of the Klingon glottal
> stop in such a context right? Since meanings of words might
> get changed if leaving the glottal stop out.
paw / paw'
gho / gho'
tI / tI'
and many more
DloraH