tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Jun 12 16:20:33 2002
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Re: subjectless verbs (was: matlhHa'ghach)
- From: Andrew Strader <strader@decode.is>
- Subject: Re: subjectless verbs (was: matlhHa'ghach)
- Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 21:19:04 +0000
- Organization: Decode
ghItlh 'ISqu':
>ghItlh Andrew Strader (Mon, 10 Jun 2002):
>: lut naQ vIja'meH loQ *Qatlhpu'*
>naDev wot {SIS} luDalaw' wotmey {Qatlhpu'} {ngeD} je. wotmeyvam tlha' pagh
>DIp. vangwI' 'oSbogh DIp'e' luHutlh mu'tlhegmey vIqeltaHbogh.
>The highlighted verbs {Qatlhpu'} and {ngeD} lack explicit subjects, as is
>often the case with {SIS}.
You better read your TKD. There's nothing special about verbs lacking an
explicit subject in Klingon. It happens all the time. "Qong" is a complete
sentence. You may wish to consider Qatlh in my above sentence as having an
implicit Qu' or mIw as subject.
SIS is not attested in a sentence in canon, so we really don't know about it.
Sometimes you need -meH. Compare:
vIHoHmeH Qatlh (Qu').
vIHoH; Qatlh.
There *is* a slight difference.
Of course I'm against any formulaic extrapolations of this pattern with
English. It can cause problems. For instance, someone once said to me,
"ngeD qayajHa'meH Qu'," to which I promptly replied, "Qu'lIj 'oHbe' 'e'
vItul." Maybe they should have used mIw, I dunno. Point is: don't just
extrapolate -- think in Klingon.
>Qatlh De' vISuqta'meH Qu'.
About this kind of sentence I'd just like to say that this is another good
candidate for disambiguation with -'e', as it is often done for relative
clauses. Thus:
Qatlh De' vISuqta'meH Qu''e'.
It was the task which was difficult -- the task in order to have retrieved
the info, that is.
But it's all up to you. Good attempts all around, 'ISqu'.
--
Andrew Strader